Sasuke & Naruto vs Madara & Juubito

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Since when is "Being portrayed above them" mean that every jutsu he's used against them, they've countered with relative ease even with both rinnegans?

Every jutsu he used against them was one jutsu, Planetary Devastation, and they couldn't even destroy all the rocks he formed, several of them still made their way to the ground. Thats all Madara showed with his double Rinnegan so anyone can say Naruto and Sasuke are stronger because Madara has no feats while they have several. That however is feat-wise.

By portrayal he is an immortal god with the full might of all the tailed beast, the Rinnegan, and Senjutsu of the Sage. He possesses both their powers all to himself and it should be on a higher level than the duo. We never got to see his third eye sharinnegan power but seeing Kaguyas certainly confirms he was stronger than they are because he was Kaguya/Juubi.
 

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Juubi jins mid diff. These two cant even match up to the juubi itself,let alone two of its jins. They can dodge or regenerate from any of their attacks. If they both go BM mode and call forth their juubis. Sasuke and naruto alongside their half of the battle field go bye bye
 

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Juubito is steamrolled by one, while the other clashes with Madara. After Juubito is reduced to nothing, Madara is gang raped by the both of them.

Naruto & Sasuke are interchangeable in the scenario above, considering they can both steamroll Juubito and hang with Madara.
 

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jiubimadara and jiubiobito win mid diff
 

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Is Madara completely unrestricted, no PIS/CIS involved?

If so, Team 2 takes it mid difficulty. If not, Naruto and Sasuke win most likely mid/high difficulty.
 
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^ I hope you aren't about to say that Madara can solo.
 

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^ I hope you aren't about to say that Madara can solo.
No, but what exactly is Sasuke and Naruto going to do to Madara's PS.

CT>IT>PS in that order.


Juubito and Limbo clones can be support against Naruto's clones in the meantime.
 
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No, but what exactly is Sasuke and Naruto going to do to Madara's PS.

Blow it open with multiple BDRS, and PS slashes, or blow it open with multiple PS Slashes and Bijuu Sized Bijuu Dama from Naruto's Kurama Avatar.

CT>IT>PS in that order.

CT gets countered, IT gets blocked, and if Madara tries to attack during the Genjutsu, then they retaliate since Sasuke's Susanoo will protect them from the light.
 

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Blow it open with multiple BDRS, and PS slashes, or blow it open with multiple PS Slashes and Bijuu Sized Bijuu Dama from Naruto's Kurama Avatar.




CT gets countered, IT gets blocked, and if Madara tries to attack during the Genjutsu, then they retaliate since Sasuke's Susanoo will protect them from the light.
Bold: Would be used against CT, has to wait for his Goudama to reform. Sasuke's Susano'o isn't besting Madara's in JJ form.

Sasuke's Susano'o is not superior to JJ Madara's hypothetical Susano'o, so the only Susano'o getting wrecked here is Sasuke's. Naruto's Kurama avatar and Bijuudama are either blocked by a quick barrier drop(Juubito, though he'd essentially sacrifice himself), or Madara should already be at ground level attacking them by the time any of this occurs anyway, so how is that going to help them?

We are unaware of whether or not Sasuke's Susano'o tanked a smaller TBB, but it isn't that far fetched. I'd argue Madara can tank a big one, but don't have feats to substantiate my claim.

OT: Unrestricted Madara and Juubito take it mid difficulty. Restricted Madara and Juubito lose mid difficulty. Naruto can essentially one shot Juubito and possibly even Madara with BDRS depending.

Edit: If Juubito let's the Juubi go rampant, it's a low difficulty fight.
 
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Oh, i didn't ask a thing: are they bloodlusted? Because a bloodlusted Naruto blitzed Kaguya before her "powerup", and even then she was portrayed on a different level than Madara, who in turn was portrayed to be way stronger than Juubito with just one rinnegan and without the Shinju powerup. Either him or Sasuke with Rinne S/T can take him out at the start, if possible Naruto since he could take out the Bijuus and take them within himself while Sasuke stalls Madara for a moment. And we all know what would happen if a Naruto with nine bijuus and Sasuke with his rinnegan (and maybe powered by Naruto's senjutsu) fought Madara. Poor man.
 

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Bold: Would be used against CT, has to wait for his Goudama to reform. Sasuke's Susano'o isn't besting Madara's in JJ form.
Doesn't need to. He can use the Kurama Avatar's Bijuu Dama on them instead.

@underlined: Alone? Nope.. That's why I mentioned both techniques together.

Sasuke's Susano'o is not superior to JJ Madara's hypothetical Susano'o, so the only Susano'o getting wrecked here is Sasuke's.

With Naruto's help? Uh, no.

Naruto's Kurama avatar and Bijuudama are either blocked by a quick barrier drop(Juubito, though he'd essentially sacrifice himself)
Exactly, so I don't see how this is supposed to help.


or Madara should already be at ground level attacking them by the time any of this occurs anyway, so how is that going to help them?
How does Madara being at ground level attacking them mean that their attacks won't help?

We are unaware of whether or not Sasuke's Susano'o tanked a smaller TBB, but it isn't that far fetched. I'd argue Madara can tank a big one, but don't have feats to substantiate my claim.

Sasuke's Susanoo can't tank more than 1 BDRS. With the Kurama Avatar Naruto can make Bijuu Dama far larger than what he did last chapter, thus stronger than BDRS, much stronger. So I doubt Madara's is going to tank anything of that level.
 

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Doesn't need to. He can use the Kurama Avatar's Bijuu Dama on them instead.

@underlined: Alone? Nope.. That's why I mentioned both techniques together.



With Naruto's help? Uh, no.


Exactly, so I don't see how this is supposed to help.



How does Madara being at ground level attacking them mean that their attacks won't help?

Because he would be pressuring them via PS slashes, and if the barrier drop doesn't happen prior to the destruction of the CT meteors, Juubito preps the tree, and Madara pressures them while it is happening. Though Naruto can destroy the tree with a single elemental RS, Juubito with Madara's Limbo clones would also be pressuring Naruto's during it's charge time.



Sasuke's Susanoo can't tank more than 1 BDRS. With the Kurama Avatar Naruto can make Bijuu Dama far larger than what he did last chapter, thus stronger than BDRS, much stronger. So I doubt Madara's is going to tank anything of that level.
Like I said I have no feats to substantiate my claim.

Eh, I'm not going to debate this, many variables and it's not exactly easy to decide.

Though, like I said, an unrestricted Juubito and Madara would most likely win mid difficulty. Juubito would actually use the Rinnegan and the Sword of Nunoboko, while "technically featless" was said to be immensely powerful and this time Obito's will won't change this. He can also let the Juubi out, which would tank everything. Just so many variables/ways this can go down.
 
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Because he would be pressuring them via PS slashes, and if the barrier drop doesn't happen prior to the destruction of the CT meteors, Juubito preps the tree, and Madara pressures them while it is happening. Though Naruto can destroy the tree with a single elemental RS, Juubito with Madara's Limbo clones would also be pressuring Naruto's during it's charge time.

Madara pressuring them doesn't mean they won't be able to form a Bijuu Dama. Not to mention they can fuse their Avatars together like they did against Juubito.

If Juubito preps the Bijuu Dama tree and the barrier, then once the Bijuu Dama fire, Sasuke warps away and Naruto tanks them with the Gudo Dama, Madara better do the same if he doesn't want to die. If he does keep attacking Naruto despite the barrier, then Naruto has clones hold off Madara and his Limbo while he, the original, sits back and tanks Obito's Bijuu Dama.




Like I said I have no feats to substantiate my claim.

Eh, I'm not going to debate this, many variables and it's not exactly easy to decide.

Alright.

Though, like I said, an unrestricted Juubito and Madara would most likely win mid difficulty. Juubito would actually use the Rinnegan and the Sword of Nunoboko, while "technically featless" was said to be immensely powerful and this time Obito's will won't change this. He can also let the Juubi out, which would tank everything. Just so many variables/ways this can go down.

The only Rinnegan jutsu Obito can use is Human Path and Outer Path until implied otherwise. Sword of Nunboko was destroyed by Sasuke and Naruto's first Avatar fusion. They destroy it again. Where was it said that the will of the user determines the strength of the blade.

The Juubi won't tank BDRS, which carries the properties of the Gudo Dama, Bijuu Dama and Rasen Shuriken. The Gudo Dama is like Jinton, as stated before, and its magnified to Bijuu Dama's scale when used with BDRS. Juubi would get vaporized.
 
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