why do some people think sm naruto> ms sasuke?

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he cant counter amaterasu... cant get past enton susanoo ribcage.. probably cant dodge the arrows either.

Because he is. Amaterasu being sensed is already shown more than once, Sasuke's arrows shown to be sensed and dodged by SM Kabuto. Naruto shown to sense and dodge things faster than him as he did to the 3rd Raikage who Naruto compared to A in speed. You do know Naruto literally have to do nothing to Susanoo right? Sasuke stated that Susanoo aches every cell in his body so the long it's up the more pain Sasuke is doing to himself and since Susanoo takes both eyes it makes Sasuke blind faster as well. Plus he's using up his chakra while Naruto can use his clones to surround Sasuke, use Rasengan on the ground to cover up their movements as he did with Nagato and the Rinnegan.

Frog song takes Susanoo down and paralyze Sasuke mind and body. Kabuto's sound genjutsu took down Itachi and Sasuke Susanoo and paralyze their bodies, frog song is stronger as it paralyze the mind as well. Sasuke have no knowledge about frog song, the toad Sage or that Naruto's frog kata allows him to extend natural energy around his body to hit his target and Sasuke can't sense or see Natural energy.

Oh and you do know both Pein and Naruto fought each other not at full power? You know the Pein part obviously with him fighting Konoha prior to Naruto but Naruto was training before returning to Konoha and he made 2 clones before being summoned back to Konoha so a Naruto was at 1/3rd the power. He sacrificed power for time pretty much and he still beat 5 Peins with SM then after Minato closed his seal he fought in SM and base with Deva path.

Naruto knows about Amaterasu, he seen it in part 1 and when they went to where Sasuke fought Itachi. Naruto has the advantage in abilities and intel.
 

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Who knows who cares But its not mid diff in either case... it has to be high Diff Sasuke could win.. and naruto Could win with 1000 shadow clones and all them Rasengans can Break Susanoo but again the winner of this fight is
DUN DUN DUN
WHO EVER KISHI WANTS TO WIN
 

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Who knows who cares But its not mid diff in either case... it has to be high Diff Sasuke could win.. and naruto Could win with 1000 shadow clones and all them Rasengans can Break Susanoo but again the winner of this fight is
DUN DUN DUN
WHO EVER KISHI WANTS TO WIN

100 clones would make his power 1/100 of it's real power which will not break Susanoo, but I agree on it being high diff
 

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Yeah, they should already submit to Naruto's supremacy...

Naruto could have defeated the [Kage-Summit] Sasuke and beyond that Sasuke was already losing his sight, so Naruto still had the upper hand...

About Amaterasu, SM provides Naruto quite fine reflexes and with his deceptive tactics, he was safe IMO...
 

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Yeah, they should already submit to Naruto's supremacy...

Naruto could have defeated the [Kage-Summit] Sasuke and beyond that Sasuke was already losing his sight, so Naruto still had the upper hand...

About Amaterasu, SM provides Naruto quite fine reflexes and with his deceptive tactics, he was safe IMO...

Yes, but what about the Complete susanoo sasuke with better enton manipulation and speed?
 

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Probably because he is. Cho Odama FRS > any Susano'o MS Sasuke had. Naruto can sense the chakra build up in Sasuke's eye and dodge Amaterasu or stay out of sight. Boss Toads, Frog Kata, etc.

Sasuke can't touch Naruto. And it's mangafact SM is stronger, just ask White Zetsu.
Probably the worst argument ever.
 

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Hashirama and Madara god stomp both negative difficulty. Close the thread.
 

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Yes, but what about the Complete susanoo sasuke with better enton manipulation and speed?

Those two things happened, neither could have happened because in real plot, Sasuke fought only one battle with his complete Susanoo and he was quickly deteriorating... He didn't got time to demonstrate those things...
It's just like assuming Healthy Itachi Vs Hebi Sasuke...
 

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You know whats funny people actually think SM Naruto is stronger than EMS Sasuke and always been stronger.
 

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danzo fight ms sasuke shits on sm naruto.

amaterasu or enton arrow will finish that clown.
 

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Sm Nardo beats MS Sauske.

Ms sauce has shit stamina and durability.
 

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Sm Nardo beats MS Sauske.

Ms sauce has shit stamina and durability.
Not really MS Sasuke's stamina isn't bad it's the side effects only.
Sasuke can't even land a hit on SM Naruto SMH

SM Naruto can't hit MS Sasuke either then enton, Susano'o etc Naruto main attibutes was taijutsu in SM at that which is bad for him to go cqc not to mention he didn't know about enton till he learned KCM and saw Sasuke use it.
 

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Not really MS Sasuke's stamina isn't bad it's the side effects only.


SM Naruto can't hit MS Sasuke either then enton, Susano'o etc Naruto main attibutes was taijutsu in SM at that which is bad for him to go cqc not to mention he didn't know about enton till he learned KCM and saw Sasuke use it.

Enton makes absolutely no difference.
Naruto is still able to react to everything Sasuke throws at him, and if Sasuke decides to coat his Susano, so be it, Naruto can easily stop himself due to the enhanced reaction rate that SM gives. If Sasuke coats his Susano'o with Amaterasu, he'll slowly be killing himself while Naruto who has superior reserves would just be chilling. Naruto could also attack Sasuke with multiple Senpou Chou Oodama Rasengan, which would surely deal heavy damage to the Susano'o.
 

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Naruto himself admitted right before opting for KCM that he needed the power to fight a nearly blinded Sasuke. I would take the author's view point over the garbage opinion of his loony fans any day.

Actually, SM Naruto can probably dodge Amaterasu, since DSM Kabuto did (the upgrade to reflexes/sensory power is the same). Likewise, SM Naruto can probably dodge a Susano'o arrow.

Agreed the Enton Susano'o Ribcage is a deadly defense against SM Naruto, who relies primarily on close-range attacks to battle. However, the Enton takes a bit of time to consume the ribcage, so the Enton is probably avoidable, even if the ribcage itself is a near-perfect defense. The Raikage was hit by the Enton purely because he chose to attack it.

Overall, I'd say MS Sasuke is stronger with Susano'o, but even then, his stamina is weak. Naruto can potentially stall him out; he has more stamina than Danzou, and doesn't need to use moves like Izanagi to avoid lethal attacks. MS Sasuke struggles to maintain a Susano'o, and breathes heavily after a single Amaterasu / Susano'o attack combo.

IMO it wasn't until after Naruto gained KCM that he became stronger than MS Sasuke, but I don't believe it was a stomp one way or another between MS Sasuke / SM Naruto.

DSM Kabuto didn't dodge Amaterasu. Don't post nonexistent manga pointers that would stir up these third grade fools even more.
 

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Key word..''probably'' and Sasuke didn't have no Susano'o at that time or enton only Amaterasu.
Enton makes absolutely no difference.
Naruto is still able to react to everything Sasuke throws at him, and if Sasuke decides to coat his Susano, so be it, Naruto can easily stop himself due to the enhanced reaction rate that SM gives. If Sasuke coats his Susano'o with Amaterasu, he'll slowly be killing himself while Naruto who has superior reserves would just be chilling. Naruto could also attack Sasuke with multiple Senpou Chou Oodama Rasengan, which would surely deal heavy damage to the Susano'o.
Naruto can react to everything Sasuke does but Sasuke can do the same MS Sasuke never was shown being tired only having the drawbacks from overusing MS against Danzo he used Susano'o and Amaterasu for nearly the whole fight and wasn't low it was the side effects how wont enton make a difference? SM Naruto always goes CQC if he does that its GG and he have nothing to break Susano'o only FRS and i doubt it can break a V2-V3 frog song is useless it's to much prep time. MS Sasuke wins this high diff.
 

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Because ms sasuke never reaced his full potential before needing an operation like sm naruto did.
Realistically ms sasuke beats pain arc sm naruto and if ms sasuke achieved his full potential in war arc like mastery of enton plus sustained v4 susanoo, he would beat war arc sm naruto.
 
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Because ms sasuke never reaced his full potential before needing an operation like sm naruto did.

True MS Sasuke was going blind after 1 genjutsu and an Amaterasu he was going blind faster than anyone.
 
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