Hagaromo hype and confusion + double standards.

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There is still the big hype about him defeating the juubi.. like its some godly feat that automatically puts him above Vote Madara, Hashirama and etc.. Sorry to say.. but no that is not the case. Hell EMS Madara and Hashirama can most likely beat the juubi.. come on now.

We have heard people say "rikudou's power this , rikudou's power that".. People seem to think when they say "rikudou's power".. they refer to him as a non jinchuriki. Another confusion = he already possessed the bloodlines for ashura and indra before he became the jinchuriki.. and their power.. BUT NO.


Rikudou's power = The power of the juubi's jinchuriki + rinnegan

If he had possessed the power of current Naruto and Sasuke without being a jinchuriki.. he wouldn't have needed his broskies help to beat the juubi. Furthermore, Rikudou's powers were only considered "godly", after he became the jinchuriki.

ALL OF RIKUDOU'S HYPE and FEATS that make him the "SHINOBI NO KAMI" refer to after he was the jinchuriki. Ashura and Indra's bloodline seperation also happened. The moon + sun powers that Naruto and Sasuke got.. come from Rikudou's jinchuriki powers.
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Also, people need to stop wanking on the rikudou family. I swear i always see this double standards.

- "So and so beats this characters via this jutsu, cause no counter shown by that character"
- "So can they beat ashura?"
- " no ashura is on another level. (yet not counter is provided for ashura either)"

 

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He created the moon when not a Jinchuuriki. That's quite the feat.
 

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Stop after reading EMS Madara and Hashirama could beat the Juubi. if you open with that BS no need to see the rest.
 

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Yeah to think of it...
Final Madz>Rikudu
 

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Madara and hashirama together wouldn't of defeated the juubi

Hashirama temporarily stopped the JUUBI while it was


A: Still in a weakened form because
B:It was revived with only 7 of the beast and a sliver of the eight and nine tail's chakra
 

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Now the current madara is a different story that would be a nice fight
 

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How the heck can EMS madara and Hashirama beat the juubi? Didn't bother reading the rest after that. Sorry buddy, but openings are very important when you make threads.
 

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Nope, I will continue seeing their bloodline as superior. All hail Rikudou, the Godfather of Shinobi World.
 

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The sage had great powers before becoming the Jin being Kaguyas son and all.
 

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Wouldn't Hashirama be able to seal the Shinju's power with his wood release. Like what happened with Kuruma.
 

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How the heck can EMS madara and Hashirama beat the juubi? Didn't bother reading the rest after that. Sorry buddy, but openings are very important when you make threads.
This, don't be ridiculous OP.
 

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Hagoromo's exact level has become very iffy as more information was revealed about him.

1. At first, there was the Juubi which had the power of all the Bijuus combined. It also possessed the Sharinnegan, undoubtedly with the combined power of the Sharingan and Rinnegan. The power of this entity cannot be questioned.

2. We're told about Hagoromo, a monk who discovered the use of chakra and used it to seal Juubi in himself and later taught others to utilize chakra to try to better the world. He may or may not had used Senjutsu to combat Juubi, and he didn't need to be more powerful in order to seal it as he did so it was logical.

3. Hagoromo after becoming the Juubi Jinchuuriki possessed the Juubi's unbridled power, and possessed minor reality-altering powers. Although he appeared to lack the Sharingan part of the Juubi's eye, having the Rinnegan backed with all of his other power made him a human god.

However, as we learned more, nothing makes any sense.

1. Juubi also had Senjutsu, making it's chakra limitless. It also possesses the power of all the elements and kekkei genkais. But, a portion of it's power was stolen by Kaguya.

2. Hagoromo was born with the Rinnegan and a portion of Juubi's power that he inherited from Kaguya, he was confirmed to have Senjutsu, and and arguably already possessed minor reality-altering powers. So Hagoromo was actually FAR more powerful when he fought Juubi, while the Juubi was actually FAR weaker than we thought. Hagoromo also needed Hamura's help, so Juubi was still more powerful than them.

3. Hagoromo's unimaginable power became even more unimaginable, yet he said his mother was still more powerful... however that worked, since he had almost the total sum of Juubi's power (except for the portion that Hamura had) and Kaguya did not. Although currently Kaguya only has a fraction of her original power.
 

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Stop after reading EMS Madara and Hashirama could beat the Juubi. if you open with that BS no need to see the rest.

SM Madara + 1 rinnegan Solo'd the juubi neg diff.. o_O, hopefully you are joking about Hashirama and Madara not being able to beat the juubi.

Wouldn't Hashirama be able to seal the Shinju's power with his wood release. Like what happened with Kuruma.

Basically... Rofl. He can also control the juubi via Mokuton X_X

The sage had great powers before becoming the Jin being Kaguyas son and all.

@Bold, proof?

Just because the mother is strong, does not mean her sons are gonna be 50/50 of her power.. << I believe Rikudou also said something like that.

Unless you are saying Madara's dad > Madara..
 
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It took Hagoromo+hamura to beat kaguya, yet kaguya is having her *ss handed to her vs. team 7, I mean they were powerful and all, but they aren't ninjas, Godara(3 eyed madara) would definitely beat kaguya 1 on 1 if it were possible for both of them to exist separately
 

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It took Hagoromo+hamura to beat kaguya, yet kaguya is having her *ss handed to her vs. team 7, I mean they were powerful and all, but they aren't ninjas, Godara(3 eyed madara) would definitely beat kaguya 1 on 1 if it were possible for both of them to exist separately

To be fair, she has maybe half of Shinju's chakra, Naruto has the other half. Remember it was stolen from Madara by Obito and given to Naruto shortly before Kaguya took over Madara's body.
 

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Just because the mother is strong, does not mean her sons are gonna be 50/50 of her power.. << I believe Rikudou also said something like that.

Unless you are saying Madara's dad > Madara..

By your logic it should be madara>than his dad, which is true
 
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