Sakura immune to poison

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I think poison has different affects. Poisons don't just kill cells the also cause a bunch of other problems like paralysis, or nervous system issues (example: Orochimaru's white snake blood poison)

I agree. It depends on the poison and also if she is already in Byakugou or not. If it's a fast acting poison and she is infected by it before Byakugou takes effect....she's probably screwed. Unless she too is highly resistant to poisons, which wouldn't surprise me.

These two right here. Poisons work different ways, no two poisons are usually the same unless they are made to be that way. Depending on what kind of poison, it can have different effects on the body that Sakura may not be able to counter. Especially if the poison takes 5 seconds to kick in. But as opposed to 5 min, Sakura may be able to use her 100 strength in order start building cells fast enough to counter the poison.

It's likely she has some immunity to poison but it's too much to say she's immune to it all. IMO, it depends how fast the poison kicks in.
 

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These two right here. Poisons work different ways, no two poisons are usually the same unless they are made to be that way. Depending on what kind of poison, it can have different effects on the body that Sakura may not be able to counter. Especially if the poison takes 5 seconds to kick in. But as opposed to 5 min, Sakura may be able to use her 100 strength in order start building cells fast enough to counter the poison.

It's likely she has some immunity to poison but it's too much to say she's immune to it all. IMO, it depends how fast the poison kicks in.

It has nothing to do with time just the effect of the poison.
If a poison causes paralysis by shutting down the nervous system why would the reproduction of cells negate that?
If anything it just spreads the effect faster.
 

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These two right here. Poisons work different ways, no two poisons are usually the same unless they are made to be that way. Depending on what kind of poison, it can have different effects on the body that Sakura may not be able to counter. Especially if the poison takes 5 seconds to kick in. But as opposed to 5 min, Sakura may be able to use her 100 strength in order start building cells fast enough to counter the poison.

It's likely she has some immunity to poison but it's too much to say she's immune to it all. IMO, it depends how fast the poison kicks in.

exactly this as ive said before aswell.. it would be even worse if it is in a gaseous form since depending on the area is covers it would come down to whether sakura can escape the gas in time and repair enough cells at the same time and depending on how fast the poison kicks in sakura might not be able to counter such a thing
 

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It has nothing to do with time just the effect of the poison.
If a poison causes paralysis by shutting down the nervous system why would the reproduction of cells negate that?
If anything it just spreads the effect faster.

Unless Sakura has a way of breaking down and destroying cells in order to create new ones. I believe Tsunade mentioned something like that in her fight with Orochimaru back in part 1. I mention time because of it takes 5 seconds to cause this paralysis, then she may not be able to beat it. But if it takes 5 min, she may be able to destroy the infected cells in her body before it spreads everywhere. By doing that, she can recreate new cells in place of the destroyed infected cells and possibly kill off the poison like that.
 

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Black mamba for example:

The venom of the black mamba is highly toxic. Based on the Median lethal dose (LD50) values in mice, the black mamba LD50 is 0.28/0.32 mg/kg subcutaneous.[8][9][10] Although there are other venomous snakes that exhibit higher LD50 toxicity scores, its venom is one of the most rapid-acting. In cases of severe envenomation, it is capable of killing an adult human in as little as 20 minutes. Two such cases have been documented in the medical literature. In one such case, an adult male was bitten on his right arm, just above the wrist by a black mamba which was estimated to be approximately 2.5 m (8.2 ft) in length. The victim began to show signs of prominent neurotoxicity within minutes. At ten minutes post-envenomation, respiratory paralysis set in and 20 minutes post-envenomation the victim showed no signs of life and was deceased.

Unless the poison is instantly killing her depending on how fast the seal allows her to heal one could argue that her cells repair fast enough avoid death. All poisons function differently as has been stated but by definition what a poison is, is something that stops organs from functioning. This can't happen unless the cells are effected. I'm not going to go case by case because it would take forever but it will always come down to the cells being unable to carry out their assignment
 

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Well .... Chakra Affecting Poisons would actually harm her (if they exist) and as so many pointed out some uniquely affecting poisons might harm her, causing her pain enough to lose control or cause something like blood poisoning (If sakura keeps regenerating blood cells ... she will blow up from the inside) etc but theoretically she should be least bothered by common poisons and stuff.

Also remember in the 3 Sanin Clash Orochimaru actually tried to choke Tsunade to death as he discovered cuts or even decapaciation wont work. So .... there are definitely limitations.
 

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All poisons attack the body and byakugou heals. So yes.
 

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Unless Sakura has a way of breaking down and destroying cells in order to create new ones. I believe Tsunade mentioned something like that in her fight with Orochimaru back in part 1. I mention time because of it takes 5 seconds to cause this paralysis, then she may not be able to beat it. But if it takes 5 min, she may be able to destroy the infected cells in her body before it spreads everywhere. By doing that, she can recreate new cells in place of the destroyed infected cells and possibly kill off the poison like that.

Oro said if he destroys the cells faster than she can replace them she dies.
The yin seal creates new cells but doesn't get rid of the old ones. And seeing how difficult it was to remove a poison directly(see konkurou) chances are depending on the effects of the poison(paralysis, shutdown of motor skills,hallucinations,) she won't have the means to remove the poison. Especially in the heat of battle without an antidote
 

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Unless the poison is instantly killing her depending on how fast the seal allows her to heal one could argue that her cells repair fast enough avoid death. All poisons function differently as has been stated but by definition what a poison is, is something that stops organs from functioning. This can't happen unless the cells are effected. I'm not going to go case by case because it would take forever but it will always come down to the cells being unable to carry out their assignment

Cells not functioning the way their supposed to doesn't equate to cell death. Cancer and tumors are perfect examples of this.

By definition poison doesn't mean what you said it does. I think you should look out up. Poison isn't goes past the cellular scale so it's not just"stopping organs from functioning" it's on the molecular scale and causes disturbances to organisms.
 

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Cells not functioning the way their supposed to doesn't equate to cell death. Cancer and tumors are perfect examples of this.

By definition poison doesn't mean what you said it does. I think you should look out up. Poison isn't goes past the cellular scale so it's not just"stopping organs from functioning" it's on the molecular scale and causes disturbances to organisms.

The only thing I didn't include was that it stops organs from functioning properly. And I'm not sure why you brought cancers and tumors because you are dying slowly because your cells are not functioning properly

I think you need to go look up what causes the disturbances to occur in the organs
 

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The only thing I didn't include was that it stops organs from functioning properly. And I'm not sure why you brought cancers and tumors because you are dying slowly because your cells are not functioning properly

I think you need to go look up what causes the disturbances to occur in the organs

Cancer and tumors are irregular cells. The cells themselves are very much alive. That's why I brought it up.

In the context of biology, poisons are substances that cause disturbances to organisms,[1] usually by chemical reaction or other activity on the molecular scale, when a sufficient quantity is absorbed by an organism.

That's the definition of poison.

Now let's look at what yin seal does.

By releasing the great volume of chakra stored in her forehead at once, the body's cell division is forcibly stimulated by proteins, reconstructing all organs and all tissues making up the human body. The technique itself does not regenerate the old cells, rather it hastens the creation of new ones through division.

It doesn't regenerate, remove,replace or fix old cells just makes new ones.

Meaning things like tumors will still be there if it's used. In fact it would actually speed up the process. The same would happen for certain poisons.
 

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hmm..i think it depends on the type of the poison...

if its hemotoxic, then byakugou can slow down or stop the process(it repairs damage tissues BUT still it wont destroy the poison unless extracted somehow)

if neurotoxic, well pretty much they're screwed.. its complex... its involves with the blockage of the neurotransmitters within the neurons.. byakugou cant replace that
 

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hmm..i think it depends on the type of the poison...

if its hemotoxic, then byakugou can slow down or stop the process(it repairs damage tissues BUT still it wont destroy the poison unless extracted somehow)

if neurotoxic, well pretty much they're screwed.. its complex... its involves with the blockage of the neurotransmitters within the neurons.. byakugou cant replace that

I told him that from day 1 (kinda) but you know.
 

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Cancer and tumors are irregular cells. The cells themselves are very much alive. That's why I brought it up.

In the context of biology, poisons are substances that cause disturbances to organisms,[1] usually by chemical reaction or other activity on the molecular scale, when a sufficient quantity is absorbed by an organism.

That's the definition of poison.

Now let's look at what yin seal does.

By releasing the great volume of chakra stored in her forehead at once, the body's cell division is forcibly stimulated by proteins, reconstructing all organs and all tissues making up the human body. The technique itself does not regenerate the old cells, rather it hastens the creation of new ones through division.

It doesn't regenerate, remove,replace or fix old cells just makes new ones.

Meaning things like tumors will still be there if it's used. In fact it would actually speed up the process. The same would happen for certain poisons.

Right, you just agreed with basically everything I said and that I'm saying. If the seal is creating new cells then the damaged/non properly functioning cells are still there but are irrelevant because the new cells are carrying out the assignments/functions that the older ones can't. And thus being poisoned is moot
 

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i think "immune" is not the appropriate wording... its better "resistant"... byakugou is not equal to an antidote.. it does not eliminate the poison or neutralize it.. nor make the immune system to become "immune" to it
 
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I asked in a thead but didn't get a clear answer

If the seal is repairing cells and poison is basically something that gets into the body and breaks down cells, isn't she immune to poison ?

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Not completely. But sasuke is immune to poisons.
 

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Right, you just agreed with basically everything I said and that I'm saying. If the seal is creating new cells then the damaged/non properly functioning cells are still there but are irrelevant because the new cells are carrying out the assignments/functions that the older ones can't. And thus being poisoned is moot

No....
They don't become irrelevant because they're still damaging the body.
 
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