Nagato and Limbo Hengoku.

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I see no reason why Nagato shouldn't be able, if he were alive, to use Limbo Hengoku. It isn't like Tengai Shinsei in that it requires Susano'o, it is a specifically Rinnegan based ability.

The reason why Nagato wouldn't have used it so far is largely due to the fact he hasn't been able to; ET Nagato and Pain both had "fake" Rinnegan eyes.

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There's not enough evidence to assert that he can but realistically there is no Nardo logic that can counteract this. You may mention Uchiha and Senju DNA, and Nagato's lack thereof, but aside from Susano'o there's no evidence to suggest you need them to use the Rinnegan's powers. Nagato has used the abilities of all the paths, something even Obito with Uchiha and Senju DNA couldn't do.

The second Madara is revived he uses moves and techniques he hadn't shown before.
 

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Nagato showed us everything he could do. I don't see why we should believe otherwise. Rinnegan is going to be more potent when the original user is using its power anyway. Most likely why Nagato can't use Limbo.
 

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It's not his rennigan I believe you can't use an eye power at its full potential unless you have awakened it your self.
 

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Limbo would've pretty useful for Nagato considering he can't really move...
 

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Nagato showed us everything he could do. I don't see why we should believe otherwise. Rinnegan is going to be more potent when the original user is using its power anyway. Most likely why Nagato can't use Limbo.

We have never seen Nagato actually fight alive. My key point is that the manga makes reference to the fake Rinnegan, as if that should even be a thing.
 

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Well specific emphasis was always placed on the owner of the eyes being able to use it more effectively
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Limbo seems to be a higher level technique, so I'm assuming that it's only accessible if the rinnegan was awaken by the user.
 

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He probably couldn't control Madara. His eyes = HIS shadow, therefore it wouldn't have matched Nagato. Or, he was unaware of the technique completely,
 

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We have never seen Nagato actually fight alive. My key point is that the manga makes reference to the fake Rinnegan, as if that should even be a thing.

we saw him against hanzo, limbo would have been helpful then as he could have saved konan by kicking hanzo away from her

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Well specific emphasis was always placed on the owner of the eyes being able to use it more effectively
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Limbo seems to be a higher level technique, so I'm assuming that it's only accessible if the rinnegan was awaken by the user.

we saw him against hanzo, limbo would have been helpful then as he could have saved konan by kicking hanzo away from her

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You both make good points; what we have to remember though is that against Hanzo Nagato was young and inexperienced, Bansho Tein would've been the best cause for action to rescue Konan. And for the original holder having the strongest power; it could be because Obito stated he couldn't handle more than one eye and that Madara, obviously, could. I don't know.
 

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I can see the logic behind this, but I don't think Nagato had known of the technique. And, I don't think the meteor jutsu requires Susano'o. Seemed like Madara just needed extra hands, which the Asura Path gives Nagato... Again, might be able to. Probably doesn't know about it though
 

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1. Nagato and Pein were using real Rinnegan eyes, not fake ones.

2. Obito could perform the abilities of the Six Paths, but opted not to since they would tax him of so much chakra and he knew his enemies had means of countering them.
 

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1. Nagato and Pein were using real Rinnegan eyes, not fake ones.

2. Obito could perform the abilities of the Six Paths, but opted not to since they would tax him of so much chakra and he knew his enemies had means of countering them.

Nagato in ET was using fake eyes. Pain was too, hence why each body only had one ability.

The six paths abilities aren't the only abilities the Rinnegan has; numerous times he's implied he can't use Gakido.
 

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He simply can't because they eyes were not his eyes. Like madara said it. The one who awakened it can use their full potential.
 

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Nagato in ET was using fake eyes. Pain was too, hence why each body only had one ability.

The six paths abilities aren't the only abilities the Rinnegan has; numerous times he's implied he can't use Gakido.

Well yeah in ET. But Pein wasn't, Nagato's eyes were transmitted to them through the technique of the Six Paths, so in a way, they were real Rinnegans unless severed from the chakra rods.

When did Obito imply he couldn't?
 

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Madara is the only original wielder of Rinnegan after Hagoromo...
So NO, Nagato can't do everything that Madara is capable of...
 

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Well yeah in ET. But Pein wasn't, Nagato's eyes were transmitted to them through the technique of the Six Paths, so in a way, they were real Rinnegans unless severed from the chakra rods.

When did Obito imply he couldn't?

That isn't true; you notice how they don't revert back to their original form when the rods are removed. Like the change in hair colour, it's an aesthetic. If it were the true Rinnegan eyes, Obito wouldn't have needed Nagato's, or for that matter, Kabuto would've had them too, as he had pain's chakra rods.

 

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That isn't true; you notice how they don't revert back to their original form when the rods are removed. Like the change in hair colour, it's an aesthetic. If it were the true Rinnegan eyes, Obito wouldn't have needed Nagato's, or for that matter, Kabuto would've had them too, as he had pain's chakra rods.


Ah makes sense.
 
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