Sasuke still has not surpassed Itachi

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You're comparing real life acts with anime lol. We can get 5 pages of manga and still be at the same spot we left off. Same as when flashbacks are shown. It's not like it's reality. Reality and Anime don't mix. Anything is possible. Kakashi is does not have better thought process then Shikamaru neither does itachi. They both suck at the thought process field. Shikamaru is an thinker and a strategic ninja. Everything he does is thought out before he acts.
Ok fair enough if you are taking about coming up with strategies before a mission but I'm saying that Shikamaru's battle smarts pale to Itachi's In real time. Don't think Shikamaru could come up with a strategy to counter nagato's chibaku tensei as quick as itachi did
 

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Hahahahahaaha really? Is this a thread right now? Sasuke has definitely surpassed Itachi you'd have to be blind to not see that.
 

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Sasukke is smart but Itachi is smarter you dumbass, we've seen Sasuke been careless and reckless in this war. Like when he got stabbed by his own sword.......

It's people like you I really dislike. Even current Naruto couldn't overcome Limbo, and you expect EMS Sasuke to do so? Hilarious. Itachi is not smarter than Sasuke. Just as smart? Yes, without a doubt.
 

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Sasuke is stronger but not smarter than Itachi.
 

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It's people like you I really dislike. Even current Naruto couldn't overcome Limbo, and you expect EMS Sasuke to do so? Hilarious. Itachi is not smarter than Sasuke. Just as smart? Yes, without a doubt.




It's Sasuke fapboys like you I really dislike. He rushed in against Madara who had SM sensing with just his sword, no Susano. He was dumb and reckless in that situation face it fap boy. He should of know that he wasn't going to win with just his sword considering it was the same Madra who just beat Hashirama. Itachi is smarter than Sasuke it's been shown ,if Sasuke was so smart he wouldn't of gotten manipulated by most antagonist in the show.
 

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Sasukke is smart but Itachi is smarter you dumbass, we've seen Sasuke been careless and reckless in this war. Like when he got stabbed by his own sword.......

Where in my posts did I say sasuke is smarter than itachi?? You fool read a post properly before you throw insults around. He's been careless but he's stil a genius and he's shown it a lot. The only arguments you foolish itachi fans alwayss use is that he's smart he's this bla bla as if he's the only smart guy in the manga. In intelligence feat wise sasuke is definitely close to him whether you like it or not foolish kid
 

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It's Sasuke fapboys like you I really dislike. He rushed in against Madara who had SM sensing with just his sword, no Susano. He was dumb and reckless in that situation face it fap boy. He should of know that he wasn't going to win with just his sword considering it was the same Madra who just beat Hashirama. Itachi is smarter than Sasuke it's been shown ,if Sasuke was so smart he wouldn't of gotten manipulated by most antagonist in the show.

Throwing my line at me wouldn't make your assumptions and shots in the dark any better. Fact of the matter is, all Ninjutsu was useless against that Madara, therefore only physical attacks or SM would work. Since Sasuke couldn't use Senjutsu by himself at that point and everyone, including Naruto and Co were done, he opted for a Physical attack - Kenjutsu in his case.

Calling me a fap boy, yet using that supremely stupid logic, knowing that nothing would have worked on Madara, not Susano'o, not Amaterasu, not Genjutsu, not any other skill set he has. Everyone failed, yet he tried something. Let it be a last ditch effort.

It is Should HAVE not Should OF. God, at least write correct grammar. Your post is a freaking pain to read. Itachi is smarter by your own hindquarters logic and nothing more. There are plenty of statements from many characters and feats to back up my point. Where is your proof that Itachi is so far ahead Sasuke in this department? Oh wait, Kishimoto himself disagrees. So nobody cares what you think.

Oh wait ... didn't Itachi fail at the end? A loser through and through, I see. Sasuke? Got everything done. Killed Itachi, trained and got stronger with Orochimaru and then double crossed him, got Eight Tails Chakra to kick start the Mezo, gained EMS etc. Manipulated? Are you going by that Orochimaru statement or Itachi's? Let's see, Orochimaru himself admitted that the reason he is sticking around Sasuke was because he never imitated / tried to follow him like Kabuto. Debunked. Itachi's statements are as valid as his own zero accomplishments. Wait, he was dead long before Sasuke did all that. Looks like another backdoor-pull for Solo-King extraordinaire.

Sasuke outright told Obito several times that they weren't allies, he attacked him after allying with him. He did what he did to get a Tailed beast to attack Konoha. Your assumptions and petty opinions are not enough to support anything. Go and crawl back into your Itachi rut, a guy, who got fooled by Danzo into gathering a stash for him.

Hilarious.
 

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It's Sasuke fapboys like you I really dislike. He rushed in against Madara who had SM sensing with just his sword, no Susano. He was dumb and reckless in that situation face it fap boy. He should of know that he wasn't going to win with just his sword considering it was the same Madra who just beat Hashirama. Itachi is smarter than Sasuke it's been shown ,if Sasuke was so smart he wouldn't of gotten manipulated by most antagonist in the show.

Moron, he rushed in yes however madara freezed him in mid air with a tech which was unknown to him. Which antagonist used him? Oro? Sasuke used him and discarded him, currently who's following who around? Obito? Sasuke got what he wanted from him(Ems) and turned on him. So you see sasuke has actually hit them when they taught they had him used. So your point is very stupid. If you want to play it like that, what of itachi that mind raped his lil bro, telling him to embrace hate, was that a smart thing to do? Several of itachis decision making has been shit so don't act like he's lived a life of pure smarts.
 

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Throwing my line at me wouldn't make your assumptions and shots in the dark any better. Fact of the matter is, all Ninjutsu was useless against that Madara, therefore only physical attacks or SM would work. Since Sasuke couldn't use Senjutsu by himself at that point and everyone, including Naruto and Co were done, he opted for a Physical attack - Kenjutsu in his case.

Calling me a fap boy, yet using that supremely stupid logic, knowing that nothing would have worked on Madara, not Susano'o, not Amaterasu, not Genjutsu, not any other skill set he has. Everyone failed, yet he tried something. Let it be a last ditch effort.

It is Should HAVE not Should OF. God, at least write correct grammar. Your post is a freaking pain to read. Itachi is smarter by your own hindquarters logic and nothing more. There are plenty of statements from many characters and feats to back up my point. Where is your proof that Itachi is so far ahead Sasuke in this department? Oh wait, Kishimoto himself disagrees. So nobody cares what you think.

Oh wait ... didn't Itachi fail at the end? A loser through and through, I see. Sasuke? Got everything done. Killed Itachi, trained and got stronger with Orochimaru and then double crossed him, got Eight Tails Chakra to kick start the Mezo, gained EMS etc. Manipulated? Are you going by that Orochimaru statement or Itachi's? Let's see, Orochimaru himself admitted that the reason he is sticking around Sasuke was because he never imitated / tried to follow him like Kabuto. Debunked. Itachi's statements are as valid as his own zero accomplishments. Wait, he was dead long before Sasuke did all that. Looks like another backdoor-pull for Solo-King extraordinaire.

Sasuke outright told Obito several times that they weren't allies, he attacked him after allying with him. He did what he did to get a Tailed beast to attack Konoha. Your assumptions and petty opinions are not enough to support anything. Go and crawl back into your Itachi rut, a guy, who got fooled by Danzo into gathering a stash for him.

Hilarious.




I'm throwing your line at me because it's true. I hate Sasuke fapboys. Once again as you said everyone was down yet Sasuke think sneaking up on Madara would work? The same guy with enhanced sensing. And even if Susano attacks wouldn't work he could of used it as protection, actually who says Susano wouldn't even work? If you're referring to Perta Path absorbing Susano that wouldn't of worked seeing how Madara only had one rinnengan, and his ability to absorb ninjustu might of worked but again it would of brought Sasuke some time. I don't see how Madara would of blocked a legged Susano at point. So yes Sasuke it a idiot for charging in with no susano.

I call you a fapboy because I've seen you wanking and overestimating Sasuke in so many other threads just not this one. Plenty of statement like what, when has anyone said Sasuke is smarter than Itachi. In fact when it comes to statement Itachi trumps he was said to have Kage level knowledge at 7 lol. And Kishi doesn't disagree with me unless you want to show me where Kishi has said or even implied Sasuke is smarter.




It's funny how you say Sasuke got everything done. He was spared by Itachi, barley escaped from Bee who easily killed him and just because Obito got sent on a TTB hunt. And yes Sasuke got manipulated by both Itachi and Obito, who was going to get handed up to Kabuto if his brother didn't save the day again. And Itachi failed...Hmmm that's why Danzou didn't even think about killing Sasuke while Itachi was alive huh, that's why Sasuke is alive now huh, that's why Obito didn't touch the village when Itachi was alive huh, that's why Sasuke is defending the village. All of Sasuke's action have been for Itachi.......But he still fail according to you nice one. Your dear Sauce worships the ground Itachi walks on.

Back on to the Obito matter, he told them he wasn't their allies.....Hmmm thats' why he was sent on a wild chase for Bee and Obito nearly got Taka killed. And you say that he used Obito and took what he wanted, when Obito was the one who offered him Itachi's eyes and he would of got sold off to Kabuto like some useless pawn if it wasn't for Itachi. It really shows you shitty knowledge for the manga if you think Danzou order around Itachi. The only reason Itachi did what he done was because Hizuren approved of it. Because once again Itachi is smart and listens to his Kage unlike a certain Uchiha I know......
 

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Why still have this argument? Sasuke has achieved SO6P Powers something Itachi never had. Clearly power wise Sasuke has surpass Itachi,What Sasuke needs now is the experience Itachi had.
 

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Sasuke has surpassed Itachi because he has Rinnegan and hasn't shows its use much yet? BS. I believe Sasuke can only surpass Itachi when he gains a kind heart like his and breaks the Uchiha curse of hatred.
 

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Clearly people can't read the manga.. Sasuke was the only person that has been praised for their intellectual skills in the war arc by the opposition. That was from MAdara himself who only acknowledges the best. The same person fapboys use in their arguments to say Sasuke isn't smart because he caught Sasuke off guard with a tech that soloed 9 bijuu. How many times does Kishi need to write out for you illiterate monkeys that Sasuke is pure genius. Sasuke = Itachi in the intelligence department. As far as power goes, Itachi fans are a joke to even compare the two. Sasuke is leagues above Itachi in every department when it comes to fighting ability.

I think it goes without saying Itachi life was a total failure. HE killed his own clansmen in the hope of a long lasting peace but it was just all momentarily bs treaty that would end once Itachi had died. Sasuke always had a goal in mind and would use every last resource to achieve that goal. So of course he would help antagonist for his own gain. In the end Sasuke always prevailed while the atagonist suffered the consequences for trying to "pawn" Sasuke. Realistically the only hater argument is that villians tried to use Sasuke. The reality is Sasuke used them and always suceeded, anyone who tried to manipulate Sasuke was killed off or betrayed.

Manga facts. L2read haters
 

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I'm throwing your line at me because it's true. I hate Sasuke fapboys. Once again as you said everyone was down yet Sasuke think sneaking up on Madara would work? The same guy with enhanced sensing. And even if Susano attacks wouldn't work he could of used it as protection, actually who says Susano wouldn't even work? If you're referring to Perta Path absorbing Susano that wouldn't of worked seeing how Madara only had one rinnengan, and his ability to absorb ninjustu might of worked but again it would of brought Sasuke some time. I don't see how Madara would of blocked a legged Susano at point. So yes Sasuke it a idiot for charging in with no susano.

I call you a fapboy because I've seen you wanking and overestimating Sasuke in so many other threads just not this one. Plenty of statement like what, when has anyone said Sasuke is smarter than Itachi. In fact when it comes to statement Itachi trumps he was said to have Kage level knowledge at 7 lol. And Kishi doesn't disagree with me unless you want to show me where Kishi has said or even implied Sasuke is smarter.

It's funny how you say Sasuke got everything done. He was spared by Itachi, barley escaped from Bee who easily killed him and just because Obito got sent on a TTB hunt. And yes Sasuke got manipulated by both Itachi and Obito, who was going to get handed up to Kabuto if his brother didn't save the day again. And Itachi failed...Hmmm that's why Danzou didn't even think about killing Sasuke while Itachi was alive huh, that's why Sasuke is alive now huh, that's why Obito didn't touch the village when Itachi was alive huh, that's why Sasuke is defending the village. All of Sasuke's action have been for Itachi.......But he still fail according to you nice one. Your dear Sauce worships the ground Itachi walks on.

Back on to the Obito matter, he told them he wasn't their allies.....Hmmm thats' why he was sent on a wild chase for Bee and Obito nearly got Taka killed. And you say that he used Obito and took what he wanted, when Obito was the one who offered him Itachi's eyes and he would of got sold off to Kabuto like some useless pawn if it wasn't for Itachi. It really shows you shitty knowledge for the manga if you think Danzou order around Itachi. The only reason Itachi did what he done was because Hizuren approved of it. Because once again Itachi is smart and listens to his Kage unlike a certain Uchiha I know......

I really don't give a damn whether you like me (or the Sasuke Fans) or not. So you can stop raging and trying to supposedly annoy the hell of Sasuke fans. The guy doesn't understand that the fate of the world hung in the balance, and every second counts. Yeah, let's leave Madara to his own devices and not even try attacking him and leave everything to chance. Hilarious.

Leadership qualities do not equate being more intelligent than someone. That is the most idiotic thing I have ever heard. Going by your logic all leaders beat prodigies around the world. Who has ever said Sasuke is less smart than Itachi? I don't ever remember seeing that. In fact, I didn't even state Sasuke is smarter than Itachi, I created a parallel. How did you get through school? As for my Bias, then sit yourself down - you are not any less biased than the next person. The so-called paragon of objectivity, the sanctimonious prig, who is going against the manga, ignoring vital facts to spew third grade garbage.

It's also funny to have forgotten that Itachi died regardless, killed at Sasuke's hand, exhausted by his chakra and haunted and pained by his illness till the very end. Sasuke had three solid chances to kill Bee as well. He faltered because he didn't have information on Bee, as Jins are closely guarded secrets and his own injuries were to blame as well.

In fact, when the first time Bee stabbed Sasuke multiple times, he created an opening by deflecting Sasuke's Kusagani with his own Raiton attack - something Sasuke didn't know about. This just goes to show how poor your manga knowledge and how disgusting your fanboyism is, as you are ignoring the fact that Sasuke turned off Amaterasu at the end even and let Bee live whilst he was paralyzed by Genjutsu and lying by his feet.

He also didn't use a full powered Chidori and held it back to paralyze Bee when his arm was stuck inside Suigetsu, without driving it through his scull. These are three solid chances, missed on purpose by Sasuke. I couldn't care less what Sasuke thinks. His opinions do not shape mine - boy, even the sound of it is downright moronic. The fact you are even suggesting so speaks volumes. Does Itachi shape your life and opinions? Lol

Go and re-read the manga and stop wasting my time. Sasuke went to get Hachibi because he wanted a Tailed Beast as a bargain prize. It was a paid to do task, you fop. Exactly, he used Obito to get the fusion for EMS and then went about his merry way, even killing the Zetsu he had appointed to guard him. All the while Obito was thinking of how Naruto is a pawn to stimulate Sasuke and how Kabuto shouldn't have him ... when Sasuke was long gone.

False, it was Danzo's suggestion that sprung Itachi into action. There are three perspectives to prove so: Hiruzen, Danzo, and Obito. Wait, Itachi is smart because he is a Jinjoistic loon? The most hilarious thing on this forum yet. Again, I don't give a flying **** about your personal opinions on patriotism, when research proves that people who cling to it ... have limited intellectual capacity. Looks like Itachi was a common Nationalist, a jackass, and a third grade moron. Pretty much a fact now!

The irony of it all. Nothing but mindless bawling from the likes of you.
 
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