[Theory] Sasuke's Rinnegan Tech: Renewable Izanagi

[valandil988]

But still Madara says: " It looks that if I get this far he can´t use his Rinnegan"(p. 15) and in addition: "But your still really fast Sasuke"(p.17). I don´t think he "izanagied" to Madara.

Hmmm, this counts against it, however Madara doesn't seem terribly certain about his statement. So he could just be hypothesizing without true understanding.

Then again Madara can move really fast so perhaps he moved out of Sasuke's own realistic range.

If it was a space time ninjutsu "field" that Sasuke is using the same issues would apply, chakra consumption vs range.

 

[Faith of Sasuke]

I don't think that Madara didn't "understand" how that Jutsu works. Sasuke just moved fast, like everybody else does everyday.

 

[valandil988]

I don't think that Madara didn't "understand" how that Jutsu works. Sasuke just moved fast, like everybody else does everyday.

Regardless what do we take from this statement?

Lets look at it from both sides,

Space time ninjutsu:

Range is severely limited. Within a certain range he can manipulate objects and people.

Izanagi:

Izanagi has a range outwith its effectiveness is limited.

Same situation different techniques.

Ergo this issue of range doesn't really make a distinction between either possibility.

 

[Tobitime]

I agree! You put what I was thinking into a solid theory. Not sure about the three time limit though. It could just be a less definite thing depending on the amount sasuke is using it, stamina etc.

 

[Faith of Sasuke]

Did we really clearly see that Sasuke's Eyes changed?

 

[valandil988]

Did we really clearly see that Sasuke's Eyes changed?

You tell me....

We've seen him clearly with on 6 tomoe, at first I thought he only had 6 until I looked back a chapter.

We've also seen him with zero, how that makes sense is a mystery to me, we only saw him use his abilities 2 times ergo he should have had one set of tomoe left but he had zero.

And kishi would never make such a massive mistake like that especially to the brand new Rinnegan he had just given Sasuke, also considering its his Rinnegan's debut chapter.

That makes the fact that the Tomoe must be changing, or disappearing or reappearing at certain times a certainty.

 

[Faith of Sasuke]

Ok, then it's pretty clear that his Jutsu has a limitation. But how and what it works won't be clear till we know what he makes with his Jutsu.

 

[VongolaX]

Well that would suck if it was like Danzo's, Obiti was able to create whatever he wanted within 5-10mins in his perfect Inzanagi.

I think it's like inzanagi, but more than 60seconds.

 

[Faith of Sasuke]

No, not like Izanagi, more like the Banbutsu Sozo.

 

[Kisake]

That is a very interesting speculation. I like your idea of what it could be. Some people are just naturally gifted at catching things other people don't and kudos if you're right even if you're just barely right you stood through all of your ideas. I'd give you rep but I don't know how

 

[anonymityIx]

I don't think he moved Naruto because when Madara uses his limbo to block Narutos attack Sasuke is confused as to what it was. If he had already used his eye to move naruto or the limbo he wouldn't act like that was the first time experiencing it. The rest is plausible tho.

 

[Manry]

It was hinted during the Kabuto fight that Sasuke would get izanagi. It's a little OP, and I still think the vanishing tomoe are d tawing errors, bit I'm glad he's not losing an eye.

 

[Faith of Sasuke]

You really think Kishimoto would make a drawing error in the new eye of his favourite character? I don't think like that...

 

[valandil988]

No, not like Izanagi, more like the Banbutsu Sozo.

I agree, this is what perfect Izanagi is. Its also said to be the core technique of the Rinnegan. Nobody can deny this, its manga cannon. If Sasuke has the Rinnegan he CAN use Banbutsu Sozo which is essentially perfect Izanagi.

That is a very interesting speculation. I like your idea of what it could be. Some people are just naturally gifted at catching things other people don't and kudos if you're right even if you're just barely right you stood through all of your ideas. I'd give you rep but I don't know how

Thank you, I'm not 100% sure I'm right but I think its the only real technique that I can see Sasuke gaining from the Rinnegan that we haven't seen every other character use.

I don't think he moved Naruto because when Madara uses his limbo to block Narutos attack Sasuke is confused as to what it was. If he had already used his eye to move naruto or the limbo he wouldn't act like that was the first time experiencing it. The rest is plausible tho.

Why would Sasuke having Izanagi or Banbutso Sozo make him immune to surprise at Madara's techniques? I think you have to go back and read the manga a bit.

It was hinted during the Kabuto fight that Sasuke would get izanagi. It's a little OP, and I still think the vanishing tomoe are d tawing errors, bit I'm glad he's not losing an eye.

You really think Kishimoto would make a drawing error in the new eye of his favourite character? I don't think like that...

^ Not on your life would Kishi make a mistake on the new powers he has just given to his favorite character.

 

[Faith of Sasuke]

But still I think he hasn't the "complete" Banbutsu Sozo.
Basically, Banbutsu Sozo is a technique to create/change thinks with your Mind (Sasuke's actual Power) and put "life" in them(Naruto's actual Power). So he lacks the Power Naruto has. Hagoromo did it like this, so nobody has the"full" and "strongest" Power and loses himself, how he did.

 

[Zorø]

Great theory man

 

[Manry]

^ Not on your life would Kishi make a mistake on the new powers he has just given to his favorite character.

He has before. And the vanishing tomoe thing debunks itself when it goes from 6 to 9 before Sasuke even uses an ability.

 

[Vapid]

I doubt it.

 

[002]

When I say far fetched and innacurate, I was referring to my words. I apologize for not proof reading as I would have added 'on my end' after the word "inaccurate". No need to so defensive and being that I don't log on everyday considering Afghanistan's internet blows, I didn't see your post until now. @ Valandil988