[VS] Minato vs EMS Madara (No Kyuubi)

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  • Madara

    Votes: 18 48.6%
  • Minato

    Votes: 18 48.6%
  • Tie, both either die or pass out.

    Votes: 1 2.7%

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Mattek2008

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Location : Valley of the End

Distance : 40m

Knowledge : Limited (Minato has full knowledge of how the regular Sharingan works)

Restrictions : No Reaper Death Seal

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Madara mid-high diff, if Minato has BM. Low diff, if he doesn't.

Minato's cover range of throwing out Kunai on the battlefield is futile to Madara's gigantic Juubi sized Katon. It covers the same area as Juubi would take, and Minato can no where teleport out of the Katon's area. Any toad summoning will be dealt with Sharingan's Genjutsu, as Madara will take control of them and use them against Minato, or simply kill them with his version 3 legged Susanoo. If Minato possess Bijuu mode in this match-up, he will be able to tank Madara's Katon, however, he still cant compete with Perfect Susanoo's offense. One of its slashes is already capable of destroying 7 mountains in 1 shot [ ]. Further the implication, he has shown to manipulate the swords witlessly [ ]. This feat can be replicated by Perfect Susanoo swords being thrown at huge number [ ]. Minato cannot teleport that number of swords being thrown at once, nor he can tank any of them. Madara is already acknowledged in Minato's FTG abilities, as he faced its former user. In close range, Madara's gunbai deflects all of Minato's attacks, and he can keep up with him, as he has Sharingan's reading movements plus the fact he speedblitz SM Naruto.

In fact, its portrayed Madara is far above Minato. There is no further discussion. Madara destroys the living shit out of Minato.
 

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No kyuubi ? Ems Madara laughable diff at best.

 

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Madara mid-high diff, if Minato has BM. Low diff, if he doesn't.

Minato's cover range of throwing out Kunai on the battlefield is futile to Madara's gigantic Juubi sized Katon. It covers the same area as Juubi would take, and Minato can no where teleport out of the Katon's area. Any toad summoning will be dealt with Sharingan's Genjutsu, as Madara will take control of them and use them against Minato, or simply kill them with his version 3 legged Susanoo. If Minato possess Bijuu mode in this match-up, he will be able to tank Madara's Katon, however, he still cant compete with Perfect Susanoo's offense. One of its slashes is already capable of destroying 7 mountains in 1 shot [ ]. Further the implication, he has shown to manipulate the swords witlessly [ ]. This feat can be replicated by Perfect Susanoo swords being thrown at huge number [ ]. Minato cannot teleport that number of swords being thrown at once, nor he can tank any of them. Madara is already acknowledged in Minato's FTG abilities, as he faced its former user. In close range, Madara's gunbai deflects all of Minato's attacks, and he can keep up with him, as he has Sharingan's reading movements plus the fact he speedblitz SM Naruto.

In fact, its portrayed Madara is far above Minato. There is no further discussion. Madara destroys the living shit out of Minato.
why would minato not use a space time barrier against huge fire style? And Hashirama "blitzed" sm Naruto with Hashirama cells.

And you realise toads can throw Minatos kunai a mile away from the battlefield or minato in sage mode can increase his throwing strength and spread kunai far distances to make for easy escape routes. Sharingan genjutsu on summonings is useless against Minatos contract seal also.
 

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The intel did not mention Madara had knowledge of Minato so Minato wins if Madara knows nothing about him. If Minato summons the toad battalion Madara cannot simply control all of them at once, that's impossible even for someone like him. Ma and Pa knew about the Rinnegan so its safe to say they would know about Madaras EMS abilities which would aid Minato even further.

Madara said Tobirama was the fastest of to exist in his era which was also Madaras era. If Tobirama said his FTG pales in comparison to Minatos then its certain with that jutsu he is much faster than Madara would be. How will PS defeat Minato? How can he hit such a small target like Minato who has the FTG?

Madaras character will be the reason he loses. He enjoys battles too much and likes to toy with his opponents and he likes to use his trump cards, PS in this case, as a last resort. Because of this nature, and that he has no intel on Minato, Minato can swiftly defeat him. No one can defeat Minato with no intel on him unless they have some type of borrowed power-up (jinchukiri, w/e) because no one can react to his FTG, especially the V2 one. Like seriously, with no intel on him the first instinct someone gets when he throws a kunai is to simply dodge it or deflect it with their own but in that moment he is already above you with a Rasengan. No one would think he has a uber advanced teleportation jutsu strapped to a simple kunai.

Give Madara intel and Minato KCM then we have a fight.
 

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No Bijuu Mode? Madara stomps.
 

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why would minato not use a space time barrier against huge fire style? And Hashirama "blitzed" sm Naruto with Hashirama cells.

And you realise toads can throw Minatos kunai a mile away from the battlefield or minato in sage mode can increase his throwing strength and spread kunai far distances to make for easy escape routes. Sharingan genjutsu on summonings is useless against Minatos contract seal also.

Hashirama's cells doesn't make you faster. No evidence indicates it.

No matter where he throws it, the Juubi's size covers half of Konoha, if not all of it. Madara's Katon spreads to the Juubi's size. He isn't throwing it when being burned. He needs to touch Madara, which he wont, since he needs to get past Susanoo.
 

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madara neg diffs with or without info minato is fodder
 

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Hashirama's cells doesn't make you faster. No evidence indicates it.

No matter where he throws it, the Juubi's size covers half of Konoha, if not all of it. Madara's Katon spreads to the Juubi's size. He isn't throwing it when being burned. He needs to touch Madara, which he wont, since he needs to get past Susanoo.

Didn't know you measured the size of his fire style. His fire style is not the size of the Juubi...... not even close. All the tailed beast are roughly the size of one of the Juubis hands. The Juubi is titanic and he has never used a fire style that large. I can't believe you think Madara will win with no intel on him. Hes fighting a complete stranger, Minato has the element of surprise.
 

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Didn't know you measured the size of his fire style. His fire style is not the size of the Juubi...... not even close. All the tailed beast are roughly the size of one of the Juubis hands. The Juubi is titanic and he has never used a fire style that large. I can't believe you think Madara will win with no intel on him. Hes fighting a complete stranger, Minato has the element of surprise.

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Doesn't matter. Minato is wearing a jacket that says ''Fourth Hokage'' in the back. Plus, moment Minato uses FTG, Madara will know the functions of it. PS trumps him.
 

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Doesn't matter. Minato is wearing a jacket that says ''Fourth Hokage'' in the back. Plus, moment Minato uses FTG, Madara will know the functions of it. PS trumps him.

So......
You think basic EMS Madara can use a fire style that large with......
No Edo Tensei for unlimited chakra...
Hashirama Cells for enhanced chakra/stamina...

Without becoming exhausted and drained?.....

Anyway, that fire style is still not as large as the Juubi and Gamabunta has large Water Style Jutsu to counter that, so does all the other toads.

Please explain to me how perfect Susanoo trumps Minato. Tell me exactly how he kills him with it because as far as I can tell, all it has is a samurai sword with no special abilities. Not to mention he can't even keep something that large stabilized for long with his limited chakra reserves. Minato has more chakra than Madara via senjutsu and can outlast him. Also, it does not matter if his jacket says 4th Hokage, with no intel on Minato he still does not know what he does. He would see the FTG once, and that will be the split second before he is Rasengan'd to the face.
 

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As people above me already said it isn't even worthy of being a VS match if Minato don't have Kyuubi and it is high dif or above high dif either way if Minato has Kyuubi.
 

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Does Madara really stomp that easily? Madara himself noted that in life, Tobirama was very close to him in terms of skill. And in my opinion, Minato is just slightly above Tobirama.
 

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Does Madara really stomp that easily? Madara himself noted that in life, Tobirama was very close to him in terms of skill. And in my opinion, Minato is just slightly above Tobirama.

It isn't a stomp, people just throw logic and rational thinking out the window when Hashirama or !adara's names are mentioned without even considering the opponents possible different approaches to the fight.
 
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