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They're very related.

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Chakra=/=Soul

The survival of a ninja depends on the amount of chakra in his body and the well being of the body, as long as they have some chakra they would survive
But if they run out of chakra they would die and their soul would leave their body

Removing chakra and removing soul are two different things

Removing chakra:

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Where are Asura and Indra.
 

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Kakashi not on the list?
And what's this nonsense about 6-7 th gate outspeeding kakashi's kamui?
 

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This was actually a good list, far better than some I've seen, however I'm conflicted over Edo/BM Minato and Gaara, but I'll hold off for now, I also noticed u didn't include the sage's family, but I wouldn't have either... Just noticed, no Kakashi
 

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I'd say your list was almost perfect but I think you ruined it with no Kakashi.

Kakashi > Gaara, Mu, Mizukage, Hiruzen, Ohnoki etc

Third Raikage > Hiruzen, Tobirama, Gai (yes Gai), Gaara and all the other revived Kage, and I'd say even killer bee.

You underestimate Third Raikage and Kakashi should be up there. Itachi and Tobirama should switch place imo as well.
 

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Your list is fine upto top 10 and it has somany holes after number 10.
 

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Where are Asura and Indra.

This was actually a good list, far better than some I've seen, however I'm conflicted over Edo/BM Minato and Gaara, but I'll hold off for now, I also noticed u didn't include the sage's family, but I wouldn't have either... Just noticed, no Kakashi

Forgot to include Ashura and Indra.(facepalm) I edited the list accordingly.

Kakashi not on the list?
And what's this nonsense about 6-7 th gate outspeeding kakashi's kamui?


Well now he's definitely not on the list due to Ashura and Indra.


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Sorry to disappoint you, but 6th gate intercepted an attack faster than Kamui can send something into another dimension without aid.
 

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Your list is fine upto top 10 and it has somany holes after number 10.

I'd say up to 12 (Kabuto) he is correct.

13. Itachi
14. Kakashi/Tobirama
15. Tobirama/ Kakashi
16. Third Raikage
17. Killer Bee
18. Ay/Gai
19. Gai/Ay
20. Jiraya

That's how I'd do it (minus Ashura and Indra)

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You're not taking into consideration that Kakashi's MS proficiency has reduced, it's slowed down and his vision has reduced. Based on his MS feats against Tobi earlier in the war his MS is still > 6th gate. Plus Gai doesn't look at kakashis eyes while fighting, how will he know kamui is coming?
 
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I'd say up to 12 (Kabuto) he is correct.

13. Itachi
14. Kakashi/Tobirama
15. Tobirama/ Kakashi
16. Third Raikage
17. Killer Bee
18. Ay/Gai
19. Gai/Ay
20. Hiruzen

That's how I'd do it (minus Ashura and Indra)

@Naruto x Man

You're not taking into consideration that Kakashi's MS proficiency has reduced, it's slowed down and his vision has reduced. Based on his MS feats against Tobi earlier in the war his MS is still > 6th gate. Plus Gai doesn't look at kakashis eyes while fighting, how will he know kamui is coming?


The only thing you need to do to counter kamui is obscure vision. Kinda like amaterasu. Garra beats Kakashi, so do Mizukage and Muu.
 

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The only thing you need to do to counter kamui is obscure vision. Kinda like amaterasu. Garra beats Kakashi, so do Mizukage and Muu.

Your opinion dude, I hugely disagree though. You're making it seem like kamui is all Kakashi knows.

But I don't want to argue right now so believe whatever you want.
 

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Hiruzen and Onoki shouldn't be on here when the likes of Jiraiya aren't included.
 

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Forgot to include Ashura and Indra.(facepalm) I edited the list accordingly.




Well now he's definitely not on the list due to Ashura and Indra.


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Sorry to disappoint you, but 6th gate intercepted an attack faster than Kamui can send something into another dimension without aid.

That was in reference to obito not kakashi.

Konan already said obito warping himself is slower than him warping others, and what's worse is the fact that maddy only referenced obito in the scans you uploaded.(at least when it comes to speed)
Now we don't know if:
Obito warping others=kakashi warping others
Obito warping himself=kakashi warping himself
Cuz these things were never stated.
What we do know:
Obito's phasing speed>Maddy's balls>=< obito warping others > obito warping himself.

How that relates to kakashi? It doesn't.
 
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I'd say up to 12 (Kabuto) he is correct.

13. Itachi
14. Kakashi/Tobirama
15. Tobirama/ Kakashi
16. Third Raikage
17. Killer Bee
18. Ay/Gai
19. Gai/Ay
20. Jiraya

That's how I'd do it (minus Ashura and Indra)

@Naruto x Man

You're not taking into consideration that Kakashi's MS proficiency has reduced, it's slowed down and his vision has reduced. Based on his MS feats against Tobi earlier in the war his MS is still > 6th gate. Plus Gai doesn't look at kakashis eyes while fighting, how will he know kamui is coming?
You just overrated kakashi
 

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This was a really good list. Thanks for taking the time to post it. U_U
 

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How does Kabuto beat Killer Bee without edo tensei?
 
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