The Sage had MS/Sharingan before the Rinnegan.

[Mitarashi]

It's obvious, he had to have had the Sharingan/ MS before the Rinnegan.

Why?

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How else could he read what was being written down?
How did he know that the Sharingan ect were even in existence? If his son's eyes were the first "Mutations" of the sages own Rinnegan ---> Sharingan.
If this isn't that case how-ever, then someone else at the time would have had to of had the Sharingan/ Mangekyo Sharingan to confirm the writings ect.


This could even mean that the Sages son's eye's are just MS...

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One of them has to be true.

EDIT; OMG LOOK AT UNDER HIS EYES.
Remind you of something?
They look like Sage mode eye effects. Maybe that's a Sage Sharingan? Or Sage MS? Madara's not activated his EMS/Sharingan at all since he got SM..

 

[Smd]

i think the sage had rinngean, and once he gained it he gained knowledge on all the Uchiha Dojutsu, and made the tablet on how to unlock them all

 

[Corgi]

With the Rinnegan, you could read the whole thing. He could've just known what was being written down with the Rinnegan alone. It's not stated only the Rinnegan can read the last part.

I don't believe he had any form of Sharingan.

 

[-immortal-]

Havin So much Power? i don't The sons eyes are beyond what Uchihas created

 

[Mitarashi]

i think the sage had rinngean, and once he gained it he gained knowledge on all the Uchiha Dojutsu, and made the tablet on how to unlock them all

If he had the original Rinnegan, then the Sharingan/MS didn't exist yet, and there was reason / way of him knowing it would.

 

[AShinyPlatypus]

I guess it is possible that the elder son just had MS, but I'd love to see a new dojutsu. I'm not convinced that Sasuke will get the Rinnegan, but the eyes of the elder son are something I would like to see him with.

 

[swirlyshark]

So true I agree bro nice thought

 

[a banned cartoon]

Everyone thinks the eldest son had different eyes from everyone else, but the reason they spiral is to show the hypnotysing effect of the sharingan. He drew them spiraled because the art style was supposed to look old. Like folk lore feudal japan style art.

 

[Smd]

If he had the original Rinnegan, then the Sharingan/MS didn't exist yet, and there was reason / way of him knowing it would.

anything is possible in kishi manga, remember no manga or series is perfect there will be holes/errors

 

[Mitarashi]

Everyone thinks the eldest son had different eyes from everyone else, but the reason they spiral is to show the hypnotysing effect of the sharingan. He drew them spiraled because the art style was supposed to look old. Like folk lore feudal japan style art.

I doubt it tbh, anyone else, maybe.
Kishi pays alot of attention to his eyes ect, since they mean alot in Naruto.
Maybe it's just the Dojutsu stuck between the Sharingan and the Rinnegan. Since it looks like a Rinnegan breaking off into Commas.

 

[Made in Heaven]

No, he didn't have sharingan. He could see into the future

 

[Troyg39]

Or consider the alternative. Those with eye powers in in general can read something off the tablet.

If the Sage had only the Rinnegan first, seeing as he is the second person to have chakra in the world and ninjas derived from him, it would stand to reason that every form of ocular jutsu is in some way connected to him. For all we know, even a byakugan user could read something off the tablet, even if that something isn't much information at all.

Think of the eye powers as branches of a family. The reason the sharingan and the MS can seemingly read more is because they have an evolutionary process that leads back to the original eye. The reason they have this process is because the branch of eye power known as the sharingan leads back to the elder son, who was a direct descendant of the original eye (Rinnegan) holder.

Now take the byakugan, for example. It too could be in connection with the family tree of eye powers, therefore giving it the ability to decipher something off the tablet, but the reason it may not be able to read as much is because it is a side branch, not a branch that is directly in line with the original eye power.

If the Rinnegan is like the head of the family tree, say the grandparents, the elder son was just that, the son. The sharingan, MS are the children. But for the byakugan, think as if it was entered into the family by marriage. It's still a rightful part of the family, but not apart of that branch that leads directly to the original parents.

I think this is more likely the case than what you've presented. Although your argument was certainly good and is also possible. Mainly, because the sharingan was seemingly a juubi thing, I don't think the sage had it. Although he could have since we know that the chakra he was using came from the juubi anyway

 

[Mitarashi]

No, he didn't have sharingan. He could see into the future

Zabuza knew it all along. The Sharingan can see the future.

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You were cheated, Zabuza.

 

[Gerkak]

No, he didn't have sharingan. He could see into the future

This^^^^^^^

 

[Parrish]

Sure, why not.

 

[Uchihareborn207]

it's impossible for the elder son eyes to be a MS because you can't call a spiral a kaleidoscope

 

[Mitarashi]

Or consider the alternative. Those with eye powers in in general can read something off the tablet.

If the Sage had only the Rinnegan first, seeing as he is the second person to have chakra in the world and ninjas derived from him, it would stand to reason that every form of ocular jutsu is in some way connected to him. For all we know, even a byakugan user could read something off the tablet, even if that something isn't much information at all.

Think of the eye powers as branches of a family. The reason the sharingan and the MS can seemingly read more is because they have an evolutionary process that leads back to the original eye. The reason they have this process is because the branch of eye power known as the sharingan leads back to the elder son, who was a direct descendant of the original eye (Rinnegan) holder.

Now take the byakugan, for example. It too could be in connection with the family tree of eye powers, therefore giving it the ability to decipher something off the tablet, but the reason it may not be able to read as much is because it is a side branch, not a branch that is directly in line with the original eye power.

If the Rinnegan is like the head of the family tree, say the grandparents, the elder son was just that, the son. The sharingan, MS are the children. But for the byakugan, think as if it was entered into the family by marriage. It's still a rightful part of the family, but not apart of that branch that leads directly to the original parents.

I think this is more likely the case than what you've presented. Although your argument was certainly good and is also possible. Mainly, because the sharingan was seemingly a juubi thing, I don't think the sage had it. Although he could have since we know that the chakra he was using came from the juubi anyway

I doubt Hyuuga are related to the Sage at all. And there are probably hundreds of Dojutsu ( Several in "Non canon" series/movies ).
These are blood line traits, all the Sage did was show them how to use chakra ect. He was the reason those people could activate their blood line traits, it's stupidity to assume that everyone is related to the sage.

The Sharingan was probably in his mother's blood. His father would have had the "Senju" DNA ( Who knows what it was called then ) and him being the collaboration of their DNA + The first "Natural" Chakra user simply released his Kekkai genkai.
When his children were both, one of them inherited the "Sharingan" and the other the "Senju" powers ( Things always skip a generation, right ? ), but a Senju/Uchiha Child has probably never been birthed since then.

 

[sindi1997]

What if the rinnegan Grants more Vision For the user And Since he wrote it so only rinnegan could read it , it would make sense Since the sharingan / ms can see less than the Rinnegan After All after each dojutsu upgrates the user vision since sharingan and ms can see less they would normaly read less

 

[Mitarashi]

What if the rinnegan Grants more Vision For the user And Since he wrote it so only rinnegan could read it , it would make sense Since the sharingan / ms can see less than the Rinnegan After All after each dojutsu upgrates the user vision since sharingan and ms can see less they would normaly read less

That's like saying that the Sharingan should be able to use a weaker version of Shinra tensei.

I also doubt that he was able to take on the Juubi without the Sharingan Techs like Amaterasu or Susano'o / Genjutsu lol.

 

[sindi1997]

That's like saying that the Sharingan should be able to use a weaker version of Shinra tensei.

I also doubt that he was able to take on the Juubi without the Sharingan Techs like Amaterasu or Susano'o / Genjutsu lol.

No Actually the reference you just said makes no sensse The vision upgrate Is followed from the very first tomoe to the rinnegan, shinra tensei is avaible only in rinnegan

He sealed It Simple as that Obito did the same with the jubbi He wasn't even connected and he did that while he was half dead and was while someone else was trying to controll him