Obito and Kakashi combining a Susano'o

[Namikun]

What would your reaction be like? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

what if they each form the part of the susanoo only way they could do it be amusing and a little BA


but my fan fic susanoo stomps theirs and itachi ehehehehehehehehe

 

[scorezor]

it wont , bc it wont happen.

 

[Amazeballs]

I think it's likely to happen, and I think the Susano'o will look somewhat female. It'll symbolize Rin's will watching over them once they've reunited as teammates, somewhat like Gaara's sand took the form of his mother once he discovered she had loved him all along.

 

[Kαmi]

They'd solo Madara neg diff. Kamui using Susano'o = GG

 

[Xāvî1]

who knows, ight even happen since kishi doesn't apply logic

 

[Itachi Edo]

God, this could happen. Obito kept rambling about them being stronger together. We just saw Madara use it without any eyes. If this does happen I'll be shocked, but Kishi has laid ground for that to happen.

 

[Ovan]

Would be cool..

 

[shelke]

Never happening. Kakashi is incapable of developing a KG himself. He lacks the blood.

 

[Takos]

Never happening. Kakashi is incapable of developing a KG himself. He lacks the blood.

How many times do we have to get through this to finally understand that Kakashi awakened his on his own?

 

[shelke]

^ Not possible. It goes against the manga's established facts. The fact his eye mimics Obito's ability and provides nothing else other than that, proves to me that he didn't awaken it on his own. The pattern is the same and Obito was capable of seeing through his eye way back. Whether you agree with it or not is past the point as I won't certainly agree with it.

 

[Amazeballs]

^ Not possible. It goes against the manga's established facts. The fact his eye mimics Obito's ability and provides nothing else other than that, proves to me that he didn't awaken it on his own. The pattern is the same and Obito was capable of seeing through his eye way back. Whether you agree with it or not is past the point as I won't certainly agree with it.

Doesn't matter in the slightest whether Kakashi awakened it on his own or not. If he awakened it by proxy through Obito while their eyes were linked, that only supports the possibility that they can create a combined Susano'o.

However, you ARE ignoring key differences between Kakashi and Obito's eyes; Kakashi has the eye that can perform a ranged Kamui on distant targets, Obito's current eye cannot. This has no bearing on which of them awakened Kakashi's eye, but it does disprove your claim that Kakashi's eye "mimics Obito's ability and provides nothing else other than that." Unless you think that, had Kakashi awakened the eye, it would have a unique ability not related to Kamui? Because that really wouldn't make sense, either... regardless of who activates it, it is still Obito's eye.

As to those claiming that Kakashi is incapable of developing a Kekkei Genkai himself... again, irrelevant. All that matters is that his eyes can link to Obito's, which they can. So, if Kishi decides that they can create a combined Susano'o, he's laid all the necessary groundwork, and it's not an "asspull" that Kakashi can take part. The only "asspull" is the fact that their eyes can link at all while in separate bodies, but we've already been forced to accept that.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Would be lame U_U

 

[Takos]

^ Not possible. It goes against the manga's established facts.

What YOU say goes against the statements of this pair of Sharingans original user, Obito's. So I guess it's 1:1 when it comes to established facts.
The difference is, your opinion is supported by Tobirama while mine is supported by an Uchiha taught by Madara himself. The latter seems a tad more knowledgeable when it comes to the matters of the Sharingan, no?

The fact his eye mimics Obito's ability and provides nothing else other than that, proves to me that he didn't awaken it on his own.

What are you talking about? Neither Kakashi can use Kamui the way Obito does, nor can Obito use Kamui the way Kakashi does. If anything, it just proves that you're wrong.

The pattern is the same and Obito was capable of seeing through his eye way back. Whether you agree with it or not is past the point as I won't certainly agree with it.

The pattern is the same because it was originally the same pair. And it doesn't really matter if Obito could see through Kakashi's eye, because it's been shown that it can be done the other way around, too.

You're just desperately trying to downplay Kakashi's achievements. Apart from awakening the Sharingan itself, all of Kakashi's Sharingan development, including awakening MS, was thanks to his abilities and his experiences. End of story.

 

[Lamb]

I think it's not possible unless Kakashi returns his to Obito. You see, Susanoo is a chakra formula in the brain created after unlocking both Mangekyou sharingan. It stays on the user even if he lost his eyes as long as the requirements are met which are unlocking both Mangekyou on his eye sockets and also you have to be an Uchiha.

 

[EZQ]

I don't like the idea, Kakashi using susano is just not him. Same for obito.

 

[Takos]

I don't like the idea, Kakashi using susano is just not him. Same for obito.

Yeah, the question of whether it would be possible is one thing, but Susanoo is neither Kakashi's nor Obito's style. The two don't need to have enormous bijuu transformations or mountain-sized ethereal giants to kick ass. That's what makes them so cool.

 

[shelke]

@Takos

You do realize that the fact that he HAS only Kamui as his ability and it works in the EXACT same way - aside of intangibility - and that he has the EXACT same pattern, along with the Eye-Perception when Obito's eye reacted to its 'Rightful Owner' is more than enough proof for me. The ability or the change of Sharingan requires the blood, something clearly proven through Tobirama's hypothesis as well; something he lacks.

Which Obito statement are we talking about here? Double Mangaeko? You do realize that the abilities are developed through genetic dispositions in users?

Every ability related to Sharingan is born out of the user's DNA. Even if the manga does go down this path, it will be nothing more than horse-shit, not any less ludicrous or laughable than Minato being a Jinchuriki - a fact that the manga clearly established was NEVER possible. Anyhow, we have never seen eye to eye on this, ever. There is no point in fighting over it.

Let's be mature and simply agree to disagree.

 

[shelke]

Doesn't matter in the slightest whether Kakashi awakened it on his own or not. If he awakened it by proxy through Obito while their eyes were linked, that only supports the possibility that they can create a combined Susano'o.

However, you ARE ignoring key differences between Kakashi and Obito's eyes; Kakashi has the eye that can perform a ranged Kamui on distant targets, Obito's current eye cannot. This has no bearing on which of them awakened Kakashi's eye, but it does disprove your claim that Kakashi's eye "mimics Obito's ability and provides nothing else other than that." Unless you think that, had Kakashi awakened the eye, it would have a unique ability not related to Kamui? Because that really wouldn't make sense, either... regardless of who activates it, it is still Obito's eye.

As to those claiming that Kakashi is incapable of developing a Kekkei Genkai himself... again, irrelevant. All that matters is that his eyes can link to Obito's, which they can. So, if Kishi decides that they can create a combined Susano'o, he's laid all the necessary groundwork, and it's not an "asspull" that Kakashi can take part. The only "asspull" is the fact that their eyes can link at all while in separate bodies, but we've already been forced to accept that.

All those ranged Kamui things are nothing but fan-developed fanfiction. Kakashi's kamui is no-where near Obito's level. Who sucks in targets so fast that it led Kakashi to state that Obito's Kamui was much more advanced than Minato's FTG - as it cannot be detected by sensors when teleportation can be.

Look at my response to Takos. That shoud clear things from my end on this topic.

 

[Takos]

@Takos

You do realize that the fact that he HAS only Kamui as his ability

Shisui had only one MS technique, too.

and it works in the EXACT same way - aside of intangibility

Yes, aside from intangibility, aside from Obito not being able to use ranged Kamui... that's quite a lot of differences. And it's really a bad argument against Kakashi developing MS himself.

- and that he has the EXACT same pattern, along with the Eye-Perception when Obito's eye reacted to its 'Rightful Owner'

When did Kakashi's eye react to "its rightful owner"?
And the fact that the pattern is the same is obvious considering that the eyes come from the same pair. Again, how does it prove that Kakashi didn't develop MS?

The ability or the change of Sharingan requires the blood, something clearly proven through Tobirama's hypothesis as well; something he lacks.

Proven by hypothesis? Hypothesis is exactly something that needs to be proven, it doesn't prove anything by itself.

Which Obito statement are we talking about here? Double Mangaeko? You do realize that the abilities are developed through genetic dispositions in users?

"You got quite proficient at using your left eye. You even awakened the Mangekyo."

Every ability related to Sharingan is born out of the user's DNA. Even if the manga does go down this path, it will be nothing more than horse-shit, not any less ludicrous or laughable than Minato being a Jinchuriki - a fact that the manga clearly established was NEVER possible. Anyhow, we have never seen eye to eye on this, ever. There is no point in fighting over it.

A regular eye is turned into a Sharingan because of the user's DNA, that's true. But that doesn't mean that an eye with a Sharingan activated can't be developed further by someone without that DNA.

Let's be mature and simply agree to disagree.

That's a good approach.

All those ranged Kamui things are nothing but fan-developed fanfiction. Kakashi's kamui is no-where near Obito's level. Who sucks in targets so fast that it led Kakashi to state that Obito's Kamui was much more advanced than Minato's FTG - as it cannot be detected by sensors when teleportation can be.

What's a fanfiction? :|
It's a solid manga fact that Obito can't use Kamui long range just like Kakashi can't use Kamui's intangibility.
Also, Kakashi's statement tells us only that Obito's Kamui is superior to FTG. It doesn't tell us Kakashi's version is NOT, especially now that Kakashi has mastered it.
Currently, pretty much both Kakashi's and Obito's Kamui are better than FTG.