Itachi's tsukuyomi 1 hits Jinchuriki.

[Mitarashi]

It's pretty obvious, but I've seen so many people that think other wise.
Yes, a tailed beast ( assuming it wants too ) will break someone out of a genjutsu, after said person had been placed in it, effectively ending it before any harm can be done.
But Itachi can just manipulate those few seconds to a full scale tsukuyomi, it is technically one of the "Fastest" justu, because it can be at any speed.
Was this ability unique to Itachi? Or tsukuyomi? Or just something a very experienced genjutsu user could accomplish. Probably the later considering he was good friends with Shisui "the teleporter", he whom had the most powerful genjutsu.


Still
Skilled tsukuyomi > Anyone that isn't an Uchiha. ( that has MS+ ).

 

[Limbo]

It solos anybody except Juubi jin, rinnegan users and MS+ users U_U

 

[Mitarashi]

It solos anybody except Juubi jin, rinnegan users and MS+ users U_U

There's honestly no reason it wouldn't defeat a Juubi jin that didn't have MS +.
note however that MS+ Includes Rinnegan lol, someone like Nagato is still vulnerable to genjutsu.

 

[uchihamad]

Agreed 100 %

Yea a jinchuriki like killer bee can escape from itachi's tsukyomi but he need a second But the damage would be already done by Itachi.

 

[omarsen]

There's honestly no reason it wouldn't defeat a Juubi jin that didn't have MS +.
note however that MS+ Includes Rinnegan lol, someone like Nagato is still vulnerable to genjutsu.

lol u serious

 

[Naruto.]

The only way for a Jin to break out of it would be to cut off some body part.

 

[Mitarashi]

lol u serious

Juubi jin is easily capable of escaping the Genjutsu, but it still takes a second, maybe 2 to realize he's inside one, and to break out.
2 seconds is enough for Itachi to raise a family in tsukuyomi lol

 

[l3m0npl3dg3]

come to think about it you kinda have a point

 

[VongolaX]

Anyone with Uchiha blood can resist Tsukyomi.

Maybe a jinchuriki too, idk

 

[Limbo]

A jinchuriki can't escape tsy since it lasts 1 second.

 

[Troyg39]

I just have two questions.

What, by your definition, is a "full scale Tsukuyomi" and how do you know Itachi possesses the ability to do whatever you believe it is?

As far was we know, Itachi can not place multiple people inside of Tsukuyomi at one time, so that right there makes me question whatever it is you're speaking of. Aside from that, it sounds like you're saying that he can somehow place a jin AND the beast inside under genjutsu. Which makes absolutely no sense. The fact that Obito had to extract Kurama before he could control him and the fact that Edo Madara didn't attempt to control Kurama with genjutsu after he realized he couldn't summon him because he was in Naruto suggests that it's either impossible or very unlikely that you can put them in a genjutsu

 

[Mitarashi]

Anyone with Uchiha blood can resist Tsukyomi.

Maybe a jinchuriki too, idk

Anyone with Uchiha blood can SURVIVE the tsukuyomi.
It takes incredible visual prowess to break out of it.

A jinchuriki can't escape tsy since it lasts 1 second.

+1

 

[Mitarashi]

I just have two questions.

What, by your definition, is a "full scale Tsukuyomi" and how do you know Itachi possesses the ability to do whatever you believe it is?

As far was we know, Itachi can not place multiple people inside of Tsukuyomi at one time, so that right there makes me question whatever it is you're speaking of. Aside from that, it sounds like you're saying that he can somehow place a jin AND the beast inside under genjutsu. Which makes absolutely no sense. The fact that Obito had to extract Kurama before he could control him and the fact that Edo Madara didn't attempt to control Kurama with genjutsu after he realized he couldn't summon him because he was in Naruto suggests that it's either impossible or very unlikely that you can put them in a genjutsu

Not sure what you're talking about.
I am just saying that before a Jinchuriki can be broken out of the tsukuyomi by their Bijuu, they have been hit by a 3 day tsukuyomi
Essentially ending the fight, unless you're an Uchiha.
And then Susano'o just seals you while you're recovering.

 

[Troyg39]

Not sure what you're talking about.
I am just saying that before a Jinchuriki can be broken out of the tsukuyomi by their Bijuu, they have been hit by a 3 day tsukuyomi
Essentially ending the fight, unless you're an Uchiha.
And then Susano'o just seals you while you're recovering.

Ok I didn't get that at first because in your thread you said a beast can end the genjutsu "before any harm can be done" so that point missed me altogether. I'm assuming this "full scale tsukuyomi" is just you saying Itachi can make Tsukuyomi stronger or do more damage or something before the beast even has time to break it

 

[Mitarashi]

Ok I didn't get that at first because in your thread you said a beast can end the genjutsu "before any harm can be done" so that point missed me altogether. I'm assuming this "full scale tsukuyomi" is just you saying Itachi can make Tsukuyomi stronger or do more damage or something before the beast even has time to break it

Well he can kill anyone not of the Uchiha in under a second, since it pretty much broke Kakashi ( with MS/3t) in under a second..
All I mean to say is that his tsukuyomi has no problem against Jin.

 

[Umari Senju]

What about experienced sensors? Wouldn't they detect the sudden change in their Uchiha opponent's chakra flow and react accordingly. Yes Tsukuyomi takes a second to activate but wouldn't a sensor be keen to the change in like the second before Tsukuyomi is active?

 

[RikudouMadara]

I believe Bee was a Perfect Jin at the time. I believe Perfect Jins can't escape it.

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[Mitarashi]

What about experienced sensors? Wouldn't they detect the sudden change in their Uchiha opponent's chakra flow and react accordingly. Yes Tsukuyomi takes a second to activate but wouldn't a sensor be keen to the change in like the second before Tsukuyomi is active?

Sasuke had no problem putting Cee under a genjutsu, and it wasn't even Itachi's masterful tsukuyomi that can be cast with a finger.
I doubt they'd be able to counter it. None of the sensors at the kage summit saw Shisui's genjutsu untill AFTER it was cast, and they were some of the finest.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Yeah no. Jinchuriki have three planes of consciousness, the two individual consciousness of the host and Bijuu and a shared plane where they communicate.

Tsukiyomi only affects the host's individual plane. Also, Itachi can only manipulate the affected's perception of time, not time itself. Even if Itachi makes the Tsukiyomi feel like one second, it's longer than that. Since the Bijuu is on a separate plane and not affected, it can break out the host in time before any damage is done.

 

[l3m0npl3dg3]

Sasuke had no problem putting Cee under a genjutsu, and it wasn't even Itachi's masterful tsukuyomi that can be cast with a finger.
I doubt they'd be able to counter it. None of the sensors at the kage summit saw Shisui's genjutsu untill AFTER it was cast, and they were some of the finest.

yea basically 3 seconds of tsukyomi solos or severely wounds at least