Could Madara use amaterasu? Did I miss something?

[thunderthehybrid]

You do not need amaterasu and tsukuyomi to use Susano'o. you just need both eyes and both techniques of both eyes, like Obito's two kamui's. Obito can't use Susanoo because he does not have his other eye.

 

[Osagyefo]

Hashirama actually has a counter for Amatersu. He can push the flames from his body using Mokuton. Same way Yamato did to Lord Sasuke chidori katana.

Madara just thought it would be useless to use something that wont work.

What about the Kages then, he had a chance to put Ay in a Tsukuyomi, which would have ended the fight Ay, but he chose
sharingan, and looking at how arrogant he was and his pride as an Uchiha, why wouldn't he use them then, instead of showcasing Hashi's powers, his greatest rival :|

 

[Osagyefo]

Hashirama actually has a counter for Amatersu. He can push the flames from his body using Mokuton. Same way Yamato did to Lord Sasuke chidori katana.

Madara just thought it would be useless to use something that wont work.

What about the Kages then, he had a chance to put Ay in a Tsukuyomi, which would have ended the fight Ay, but he chose
sharingan, and looking at how arrogant he was and his pride as an Uchiha, why wouldn't he use them then, instead of showcasing Hashi's powers, his greatest rival :|

 

[-Spoiler-]

thing is he has it but only sasuke can control the black flames that he's special ability if and when madara uses it going to be like when itachi uses it just where he's eye meet and continously burning

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

Madara would have used it at least once.

 

[Bronze]

What about the Kages then, he had a chance to put Ay in a Tsukuyomi, which would have ended the fight Ay, but he chose
sharingan, and looking at how arrogant he was and his pride as an Uchiha, why wouldn't he use them then, instead of showcasing Hashi's powers, his greatest rival :|

Madara already suggested that he was testing his powers. Also there is still no proof that genjutsu was not Tsukuyomi.

I am just going by DB.

 

[Edo Odin]

There's a lot of that fight we haven't seen, it's not impossible that Madara has used it. For all we know, Madara isn't very proficient in Amatarasu. Even if it's a strong jutsu, given Madara's personality, using it weakly is still a type of being weak, and so he doesn't use it at all for the sake of his pride.

I'm aware, hence why included all this in my first post. My only point is that while he may quite possibly have it, you can't deny the fact that it's odd that we haven't seen him use it even once, despite the power of the attack.

Hashirama has healing techniques on par to that of Tsunade's Byokogu. In top of that, he has the counter for Amatersu.

Just because he hasn't shown it, doesn't mean he doesn't have it. The absence of evidence isn't the evidence of absence.

Kishi still hasn't disproved the Databook statement so therefore it stays true as it is.

If the usefulness of an attack would always be determined by how much effect it would have on Hashirama, almost every attack in the NV should be considered pointless. So frankly, I don't see your point.

If you look at my first post, you'll notice that I never said that he didn't possess it. I just said that while he may or may not have it, I find it odd that we've yet to see him use it even once, despite there being a handful of instances where the attack would have been quite useful.

 

[gutSy Sage]

Yeah last I checked you need both to get susanoo, so idk what some of the peeps are trying to preach

 

[Optimistic]

Yeah last I checked you need both to get susanoo, sHashirama has healing techniques on par to that of Tsunade's Byokogu. In top of that, he has the counter for Amatersu.

Just because he hasn't shown it, doesn't mean he doesn't have it. The absence of evidence isn't the evidence of absence.

Kishi still hasn't disproved the Databook statement so therefore it stays true as it is.
If the usefulness of an attack would always be determined by how much effect it would have on Hashirama, almost every attack in the NV should be considered pointless. So frankly, I don't see your point.

If you look at my first post, you'll notice that I never said that he didn't possess it. I just said that while he may or may not have it, I find it odd that we've yet to see him use it even once, despite there being a handful of instances where the attack would have been quite useful.T

here's a lot of that fight we haven't seen, it's not impossible that Madara has used it. For all we know, Madara isn't very proficient in Amatarasu. Even if it's a strong jutsu, given Madara's personality, using it weakly is still a type of being weak, and so he doesn't use it at all for the sake of his pride.
I'm aware, hence why included all this in my first post. My only point is that while he may quite possibly have it,

you can't deny the fact that it's odd that we haven't seen him use it even once, despite the power of the attacko idk what some of the peeps are trying to preach ​

 

[RikudouMadara]

Well...by manga fact he has them. Wether he's shown it or not doesn't matter if a databook confirms it.

 

[Awkward Linguist]

If he used Amaterasu, Hashirama would have been long dead.

You should.

That wiki statement came from the manga and Databook. Madara has Susanoo because he can use Amatersu and Tsukuyomi.

My thread should help:

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Susanoo = Amatersu + Tsukuyomi. Databook and Manga fact.

No, not really.

 

[shelke]

He probably does not have it.


@Tim What are you doing? Lol

 

[Optimistic]

He probably does not have it.


@Tim What are you doing? Lol

killing time man, killing time.

 

[Osagyefo]

Madara already suggested that he was testing his powers. Also there is still no proof that genjutsu was not Tsukuyomi.

I am just going by DB.

Then why didn't he "test" Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu then.... and the genjutsu he used was clearly

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, confirmed on the

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(My internet is acting up, tell me if you're able to see the image or not......)

 

[Prime Rib]

I don't think I did but look at this link from Narutopedia

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And what they said on his sharingan bio

"Madara demonstrated the ability to use Susanoo — and is therefore also able to use Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu by extension — though they have yet to be seen."

Should I believe this or not

Its been confirmed along time now that you need to awaken both Amat and Tsuk to Get Suasnoo.

 

[dario14]

there havent been are reason why he should us it, (itachi said self that when you unlock Tsukuyom and Amaterasu you going to have the susanno, he said that around when he first showcast the susanoo).

 

[-Spoiler-]

what people arent looking at is that both kakashi and orochimaru knows over 1000 jutsu have you seen them use most of them?
saying that he doesnt have it because he never used it on screen is a foolish reason.
nagato had creation of all things(yin-yang release) but never used it

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Yeah last I checked you need both to get susanoo, sHashirama has healing techniques on par to that of Tsunade's Byokogu. In top of that, he has the counter for Amatersu.

Just because he hasn't shown it, doesn't mean he doesn't have it. The absence of evidence isn't the evidence of absence.

Kishi still hasn't disproved the Databook statement so therefore it stays true as it is.
If the usefulness of an attack would always be determined by how much effect it would have on Hashirama, almost every attack in the NV should be considered pointless. So frankly, I don't see your point.

If you look at my first post, you'll notice that I never said that he didn't possess it. I just said that while he may or may not have it, I find it odd that we've yet to see him use it even once, despite there being a handful of instances where the attack would have been quite useful.T you can't deny the fact that it's odd that we haven't seen him use it even once, despite the power of the attacko idk what some of the peeps are trying to preach ​

Databook is outdated and Sasuke does'nt have Tsukiyomi and he could use Susanoo.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

there havent been are reason why he should us it, (itachi said self that when you unlock Tsukuyom and Amaterasu you going to have the susanno, he said that around when he first showcast the susanoo).

That was for his Susanoo.You need to unlock the MS in both eyes in order to use Susanoo.

 

[chopstickchakra]

No. obito doesn't even have AMaterasu on either eyes

And he doesn't have Susano'o either soooooo good fail.

OP: There are two schools of thought on this.

School 1:
Susano'o is activated by unlocking the MS skills of each eye (left and right)

School 2(Which I agree with):
Susano'o is activated by unlocking the MS skills Amaterasu and Tsukyomi.

The confusion comes from Itachi's explanation to Sasuke. Itachi had Amaterasu and Tsukyomi and when describing it said you need to unlock MS skills in both eyes. Some interpret this as his tech's specifically and others believe he meant MS skills regardless. Madara planned on doing Infinite Tsukyomi so it stands to reason that he has the ability of Tsukyomi. He's also the strongest Uchiha in history until Sasuke is shown to surpass him so it also stands to reason that he possesses the strongest Katon technique aka Amaterasu.