Itachi still above Kakashi?

[Umari Senju]

No normal genjutsu is going to work against Kakashi besides tsukuyomi because he is also a Sharingan user who was capable to compete with a Perfect Jinchuriki controller in the genjutsu department. Even tsukuyomi is now doubtful to work now that he masters MS when he already smh resisted to it even without MS before collapsing

Except you are forgetting that in order to break Tsykuyomi you must be of Uchiha blood which Kakashi is not. Now Kakashi is aware of how Tukuyomi work, so catching him in it will be difficult, but it's not just Tsukuyomi Kakashi gas to contend with. It's also Kotoamatsukami, izanami, Igamani, etc. Kakshi has no Intel in how these work or to avoid them.

Kamui will only do so much for Kakashi.

Now if Kakshi comes out of the Kamui dimension and us able to use Kamui to the extent Obiti does/did (phasing body parts) Then Itachi might be in trouble.

I highly doubt Kakashi will get that ability though.

 

[itachi4real]

don't go there. I'm a Kakashi fan and I don't think that. Kamui puts Kakshi close to Itachi, but Itachi is a genjutsu master. Kakashi would loose to this in the end.

kabuto had more better chances of not losing to genjutsu than kakashi....sooo in the end he's bound to lose to genjutsu

 

[GreenBeast]

The difference was because of Itachi's MS in their first fight, in part 2 look at Itachi's face when Kakashi provokated him, now Kakashi has improved in every field, ms,chakra and speed etc...

Kakashi is better.

Feet fetish eh.

 

[Filo]

I say it would be a high difficulty battle. Kakashi may win because of stamina. But Susanoo may trump Kakashi

 

[itachi4real]

his fans only argument is kamui makes kakashi better than itachi

this is true lol its like does kakashi have any other jutsu to them

 

[PureSkillz]

Kaumi is too fast. And it isn't an attack so Yata can't block it.

Totsuka blitzes nothing I hate hearing that, it's been used twice and it wasn't a blitz either time. :|

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

don't go there. I'm a Kakashi fan and I don't think that. Kamui puts Kakshi close to Itachi, but Itachi is a genjutsu master. Kakashi would loose to this in the end.

okay u made your point

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[Skull Knight]

yeah it appeared to work instantly at that time, but when you analyze it a little closer you'll discover that Pein was standing in 1 spot while he was about to shoot that nail into Kakashi's face, while Kakashi was also stuck in 1 spot with no where to go and the opportunity to only need a very small portion of Kamui for something the nail's size, which wasn't big at all, combined with the alignment of him and Pein, i'd say he could notice where the nail was supposed to be aimed at and have just a little bit of kamui in the right spot. So it seems like it was instant and he could Kamui almost anything of any size with ease almost instantly , but he was really accessing his only option there with a correct analysis of the situation. Same thing with Sasuke's Sussano'o arrow. Since they are heading directly towards Kakashi's face area they are somewhat heading into the portal created as Kamui so they sort of helped Kakashi out. xD

that's a nice explanation but still kishi makes it look that kakashi's kamui has become instant.maybe he will show it in future if Naruto series continues after Obito & Jubi's end.

 

[Colonel Armstrong]

oh....because just cuz k-man had enough wit to get out of the two forbidden eye techs that we seen(the one itachi used to loop kabuto and the one danzo used on sasuke) and that is is versatile in every sense of the word...YOU PEOPLE THINK HE CAN SURPASS ITACHI?!?!?....difference in opinion i guess..but i say itachi> k-man.

 

[foxyladyland]

kamui can also make Amerteratsu vansih BTW itachi and kakashi are both unpredictable shinobis in whole NV ....they both have same level of intelligence .....So it is too much difficult to choose who can win

that's probably true, but Itachi doesn't have to aim directly at Kakashi's kamui eye, he could aim a little lower at his throat while Kakashi is aiming at Itachi's . The thing about both of these jutsu is that they don't really *travel* somewhat. They sort of start at the tiniest space in front of the target that's being aimed at. Then within a nano-second , begin make impact. :itachi:

 

[Stark]

Before Itachi thinks of activating his Mangekyou to use tsukuyomi, he would already be in the other dimension. I can also resonate like that

It doesn't work as quickly as that, he won't even see the Genjutsu coming. He lost to 30% Itachi in Part 1. Full on Itachi vs current Kakashi Itachi wins. God knows how many times Kakashi was healed, given chakra, etc.. He's completely overrated.

 

[foxyladyland]

that's a nice explanation but still kishi makes it look that kakashi's kamui has become instant.maybe he will show it in future if Naruto series continues after Obito & Jubi's end.

yeah maybe, hopefully not though *_*

 

[Skull Knight]

this is true lol its like does kakashi have any other jutsu to them

indeed troll kishi has totally forgot that kakashi got 1000jutsu in his arsenal.
and he only shows kamui and raikiri.

 

[Gdamon]

have you been watching and reading the same thing I have ?! lol because you sound ridiculous right now...

have you been paying attention till now?...

Naruto has more firepower, but he is not smart enough to handle Itachi and his weapons are game enders...

Bee has more of a change but Itachi was able to fight him without getting overwhelmed,I don't know whether or not Susanoo can handle Tailed Beast Bomb or not...

Minato has shown no counter to genjutsu, Itachi surely would know about Minato's flying thunder god and be able to think of dodging, Minato could try to use multiple Kunai but Itachi is good with shurikens, and...

if Sasuke can suppress tailed beast then so can Itachi...

Tsunade has not shown any counter to Genjutsu, Raikege got genjutsu-ed, Onoki could probably beat him if he uses Particle Style but Izangi, Mei has the least chance..

Sasuke has a weaker Susanoo, he is less calm in battle, and Itachi has more knowledge of sharingan...

Kakashi has improved, but he never fought against Itachi's full arsenal...

and Tobi's abilities were figured out by Minato, Itachi can do the same...

 

[Bogard]

Except you are forgetting that in order to break Tsykuyomi you must be of Uchiha blood which Kakashi is not. Now Kakashi is aware of how Tukuyomi work, so catching him in it will be difficult, but it's not just Tsukuyomi Kakashi gas to contend with. It's also Kotoamatsukami, izanami, Igamani, etc. Kakshi has no Intel in how these work or to avoid them.

Itachi said that because he never knew a non-Uchiha could achieve MS like he thought to himself when Kakashi hinted him around his vision. Databook says high level of Sharingan mastery can allow you to break tsukuyomi. Now that Kakashi mastered his MS, dunno why he couldn't.

Also, Kakashi has full intel on Itachi besides Izanami(he can't use izanagi or his izanagi is rather poor since he has no senju dna) and izanami won't work on Kakashi. Izanami only works on people who don't accept reality or try to be someone else. Kakashi isn't in that category. Itachi on the other side has no intel on Kamui

 

[itachi4real]

It doesn't work as quickly as that, he won't even see the Genjutsu coming. He lost to 30% Itachi in Part 1. Full on Itachi vs current Kakashi Itachi wins. God knows how many times Kakashi was healed, given chakra, etc.. He's completely overrated.

exactly....like i said before we've never seen itachi at his full power and with an killing intent

 

[itachi4real]

i still think deidara beats kakashi but thats my opinion

 

[Umari Senju]

this is true lol its like does kakashi have any other jutsu to them

dont go there either. The same can be said with Itachi fans. Their argument is Yata Mirror this and Tosuka Blade that. Last I checked Itachi has other jutsu too. Please let's not make this a fanboy bashing debate and keep it between to very skilled ninja which they both are.

 

[Bogard]

It doesn't work as quickly as that, he won't even see the Genjutsu coming. He lost to 30% Itachi in Part 1. Full on Itachi vs current Kakashi Itachi wins. God knows how many times Kakashi was healed, given chakra, etc.. He's completely overrated.

Kakashi activates and use kamui rather faster(he has the fastest MS activation jutsu showed so far in the manga). Notice that when Sasuke launched arrows at him from a mid range distance,

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(only Sharingan was), yet he didn't only activate it at the same instant, but warped the 2arrows

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[foxyladyland]

indeed troll kishi has totally forgot that kakashi got 1000jutsu in his arsenal.
and he only shows kamui and raikiri.

they may all be variations of 1000 years of death jutsu honestly. U_U it may be hype and so far it is only hype. I mean, who could've seen one person Kakashi use 1000 different jutsu?
I think its like Minato having FTG and FTG lvl 2. Its the same jutsu but he used it twice before he touched the ground and added Rasengan to it. I think its like Naruto having shadow clone jutsu and using his shadow clones to make Uzumaki Barrage. Its not another jutsu, its just him using his shadow clones to kick together. :] that what I think his 1000 jutsu are . There just a variation or combo of some other attacks with different names.