Imcomplete Sage Mode Orchimaru vs Incomplete Sage Mode Jyria

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REstrictions no Reanimation jutsu, intent kill, location, rain village​
 

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Orochimaru can't turn into a sage, his body can't handle it.. He only has access to the chakra for, apparently, short periods of time...
 

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Orochimaru can't turn into a sage, his body can't handle it.. He only has access to the chakra for, apparently, short periods of time...

This is hypothetical.

ORchimaru gets all of Kabutos moves, but restricted.

IF that makes sense
 

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This is hypothetical.

ORchimaru gets all of Kabutos moves, but restricted.

IF that makes sense
So, Orochimaru has the agility, sensing, and greatly improved strength Kabuto revealed?

He wins. DSM>=SM
 

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Not sure how this would work, but a sage Oro would be too much for Jirayia to handle. Except for genjutsu, a known weakness of him, none of Jirayia's jutsus would harm him. Hypothetically.
 

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Orochimaru can't turn into a sage, his body can't handle it.. He only has access to the chakra for, apparently, short periods of time...

Proof? never heard this. probably in the recent manga or something but you have me curious.
 

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Orochimaru doesn't need dsm to beat j man
 

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Proof? never heard this. probably in the recent manga or something but you have me curious.

It's been stated his body can't handle it, but it must be that he can access it for a bit other wise how the hell would he transfer the Senjutsu chakra [present in the curse mark] to others?
 

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It's been stated his body can't handle it, but it must be that he can access it for a bit other wise how the hell would he transfer the Senjutsu chakra [present in the curse mark] to others?

Where'd you hear that? &He's transferring it from Juugo, not himself.
 

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Frog song beats Oro.

Kabuto also had DNA abilities which Oro lacks. No liquid form, no sound genjutsu.
 

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Where'd you hear that? &He's transferring it from Juugo, not himself.

Ofc from himself. He seals a part of HIS senjutsu chakra in a person. The only thing he got from Juugo was information about a special enzyme and the way it triggers body transformations while in contact with Senjutsu chakra.
Oro experimented on this enzyme and came up with his own Cursed Seal that, unlike in Juugo's case, eliminated the problem of getting into rage.

So basically,
Oro's Cursed Seal -> gives a body an ability to transform.
Oro's Senjutsu chakra -> triggers that transformation.

@OT
Oro wins.
 

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Jiraiya still wins. Getting Snake Sage Mode doesn't equate to getting all of Kabuto's techniques, especially when he got most of them from Sound 5 and Taka.

White Rage is useless without the ability to liquefy his insides (Which I don't get at all, why would Snake SM give a move that harms the user? Unless there is another way around it) since the vibrations will still harm and paralyze him. Muki Tensei is meh here considering there is barely anything to use here.

So Oro has 1 semi useful Sage technique and 1 useless one.
 

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Incomplete Sage Mode Orchimaru vs Incomplete Sage Mode Jiraya will be an incomplete fight IMO.
and IMO wins the less incomplete, or the most complete, depending of perspective.
 

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Jiraiya still wins. Getting Snake Sage Mode doesn't equate to getting all of Kabuto's techniques, especially when he got most of them from Sound 5 and Taka.

White Rage is useless without the ability to liquefy his insides (Which I don't get at all, why would Snake SM give a move that harms the user? Unless there is another way around it) since the vibrations will still harm and paralyze him. Muki Tensei is meh here considering there is barely anything to use here.

So Oro has 1 semi useful Sage technique and 1 useless one.

Maybe Sm's enhanced durability can partially tank it. It's sort of a double blade, but if it hits the opponent will be hurt more.

White Rage can finish a fight, honestly.
 

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As orochimaru can't have acces to snake sage mode... when you say SM orochimaru i think you're talking about Hydra Mode Orochimaru? (the strongest version we've seen of him)
 
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