[Theory] Sakura's seal not what may be expected??

[Joshutsu]

That is where I want more information on. Who is this half Senju/Uzumaki?? Was it confirmed Tsunade is Hashi's granddaughter through her father?

To my knowledge it isn't confirmed whether hashi's child was tsunade's mother or father.

 

[Draxus]

no shinobi currently alive has ever spoken with Mito. It is impossible for Sakura to have learned some of her techniques if even Tsunade doesn't know.

If Kushina knew her as a child there is no way you can assume her own granddaughter, who is much older than Kushina, hasn't spoken with her.

 

[Mistraal]

I highly HIGHLY doubt Mito spent her days as a Jinkuriki and Hokage's wife without writing some of her jutsu down. That just makes no sense whatsoever. Guess where they would be now? In the library that only Tsunade, and by extension Sakura, has access to.

In fact, wasn't there a part in the manga where Sakura was poking around in there?

 

[Joshutsu]

I highly HIGHLY doubt Mito spent her days as a Jinkuriki and Hokage's wife without writing some of her jutsu down. That just makes no sense whatsoever. Guess where they would be now? In the library that only Tsunade, and by extension Sakura, has access to.

In fact, wasn't there a part in the manga where Sakura was poking around in there?

Exactly why Sakura could possibly mastered some of mito's techniques. There is reference to most jutsu.

 

[Mistraal]

Exactly why Sakura could possibly mastered some of mito's techniques. There is reference to most jutsu.

This might explain Hashirama's random reaction to Sakura when she powered up as well. If he recognized it as Mito's jutsu of course he'd say something.

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[Mr Hiru]

That is where I want more information on. Who is this half Senju/Uzumaki?? Was it confirmed Tsunade is Hashi's granddaughter through her father?

I threw it by luck. Anyways, who cares if it was her mother or father? My point is that Tsunade had the bloodline from someone who knew better her grandfather and grandmother.

XD

 

[Joshutsu]

This might explain Hashirama's random reaction to Sakura when she powered up as well. If he recognized it as Mito's jutsu of course he'd say something.

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Uh, well she only did a punch. That was only a result of her not having to use only a posrtion of her chakra because of creating the seal.

I feel hashirama would come into play when she releases the seal. which should be soon, sasukes summon disappeared, this chapter gone it was naruto's and next katsuya, and she shoudl be ready to hit the stage because remote healing would be over.

 

[Mr Hiru]

Uh, well she only did a punch. That was only a result of her not having to use only a posrtion of her chakra because of creating the seal.

I feel hashirama would come into play when she releases the seal. which should be soon, sasukes summon disappeared, this chapter gone it was naruto's and next katsuya, and she shoudl be ready to hit the stage because remote healing would be over.

A question... why do you call it "Katsuya"?

As far as I know, this summon is called Katsuyu.

 

[Joshutsu]

A question... why do you call it "Katsuya"?

As far as I know, this summon is called Katsuyu.

I don't know, i alternate sometimes i say katsuyu and sometimes i say katsuya. D;

 

[HiddenBehindTheStars]

You're talking about Kishi here, the master of ass-pulls and explanations. With Sakura right now there is only two options: Slug Mode or finding more about her seal. Since The Slug princess herself hasn't shown us Slug Sennin Mode yet and anthor power up for her is unlikely. so expanding and explaining this seal is the only clear option. Only if Kishi totally rejects her and focuses on someone else like usual.

 

[Joshutsu]

You're talking about Kishi here, the master of ass-pulls and explanations. With Sakura right now there is only two options: Slug Mode or finding more about her seal. Since The Slug princess herself hasn't shown us Slug Sennin Mode yet and anthor power up for her is unlikely. so expanding and explaining this seal is the only clear option. Only if Kishi totally rejects her and focuses on someone else like usual.

We can't expand if we don't know of Mito's abilities. Maybe SSM will be related to the seal in some way? Slugs already confirmed to have a connection with the summoner through the seal. Who knows. To be honest. I'm about 100% sure Tsunade wouldn't teach sakura the deadly jutsu she uses as it harms the body severely.

Slug sage mode would most likely grant her some op level healing w/o the drawbacks. OR her seal release would be a more advanced version of the byakugou. Everyone knows seeing Sakura pull off the same techs as her master with that seal will be repetative and boring.

The other skills she learned from her master i'm ok with because they are pretty important to know if you are standing out from other medical ninjas but i don't want an exact copy of tsunade down to the trump card techniques which is why im looking at the next option being mito's techs or SM. Maybe Sakura might surprise us and have actually made her own jutsu.

 

[Nature Sage]

I'd say its basically like a gigantic chakra dump....Sakura, who normally has average reserves, now has three years of chakra added to her current supply.

The fact she said she didn't have to use it to appear younger like Tsunade does indicate that she apparently can use it to appear younger... but being young she has no reason to do so.

Somewhat similarly, Mito was Kurama's host, and as such did not have to leave the village. Most likely (like Kushina) she left a combat role in order to keep the risks of losing control to absolute minimums. She theoretically could also make herself look younger, but she has no reason to do so as she's no longer a shinobi.


That being said it is impossible to say for sure what it will be used for. Considering she is a medical shinobi... I would say Sakura would logically follow Tsunade's style otherwise it would seem odd in my opinion. Why train in medical ninjutsu and then use a fighting style that doesn't play to one's strengths... and after having to wait 3 years to use whatever moves are now available... it would be a horrible tactical decision to use styles one cannot practice as opposed to playing in a medical field that she's spent 3 years excelling in.


That's just my take on it anyhow... but as you've said there's always a possibility.

It was said that Mito had control over Kurama's Chakra. Just a thought, side note... I like the theory, logical, reasonable and possible.

 

[veggetta13]

Sakura doing genjutsu sounds a bit too forced to me. A darky twist won´t stop me thinking "Weezer" so as Sakura are really rigid thinking fellows playing it smoothly. Meaning having Sakura apply one ninja tech besides #kunai-ing or not doing so nor anything won´t tell more about her character.

I liked Sakura alright in the 1st part and the start of the 2nd up to the serpent´s pupile,but god almighty, it´s too long with an actionless character keeping on and on the same straight line.
Ok, I cross my fingers for something to happen! PeACe

 

[OMGitsShakra]

i like it, this sounds really great. last we saw sakura, she was healing the alliance and she said herself she hasnt shown her true power yet. more is coming with her, and in my opinion it makes sense to say whatever her seal does...it will probably help break tsuki no me or we will see proof of that genjutsu knack weve heard of (via of course, breaking the genjutsu).

sasuke and naruto's abilities compliment each other well. sasuke has genjutsu casting abilities, fire and lightening elements and a summon. naruto has kurama, sage mode, summoning, and wind element giving him rasengan, and then sakura has precise chakra control, is intelligent, medical ninja, seal we havent learned about and now a summoning. whatever is left for her, will compliment sasuke and naruto's combo most likely. i dont think she will get mokuton (unless she gave herself some senju dna somehow)..slug sage mode is not likely at this point..i see only naruto having sage mode because the show is called naruto and it would make sense to not give that to sasuke and sakura. sakura does supposedly have a genjutsu breaking ability thats great because its been noted and seen in the manga. this however has always been associated with her, yet shes not shown any real feat to it. to me, kishi has saved her for last (well her naruto and sasuke's final developments for last) i think sakura is going to show her skills and break everyone out of the genjutsu...then of course sasuke and naruto and company take back over. if she does fight again, it will be with naruto against sasuke (again my opinon of what i see happening) there isnt much more he can do for her right now at this point. what do you guys think?

 

[FearxDeath]

1) You say these 2 techniques, but you had only mentioned one. Even at that I assume you mean the Byakguo and her Yin Seal.

2) The Yin Seal has no draw backs, it is merely stored Chakra, Byakguo (Pretty sure im not spelling that right) on the other hand reduces her lifespan because it causes her cells to split at an accelerated rate. The interesting thing is that this is actually a scientific theory, albeit non conclusive and challenged, but a theory nontheless. She gets around looking old with a 3rd Jutsu which causes her to look young.

3) Its unclear whether or not Tsunade's Bloodline comes into play here, remember she is only 1/4th Senju.

4) You say that Sakura would not use the Rebirth Jutsu, but you forget that using that technique is not a choice, Tsunade only used it after she took a fatal blow from Madara, and I believe that if Sakura takes a fatal blow, regardless of how risky it may be, she will use the technique.

5) To say that Sakura would use Mito's techniques raises the question of who teaches it to her, if the answer is Tsunade then that begs the question why havent we seen Tsunade use them?

6) An interesting thing you failed to notice was that Hashirama knew about Tsunade's strenght. Yet he hasnt met her since being an Edo and died when she was relatively young, like really young. Which would mean that Tsunade mastered the Yin Seal at an extremely young age. Not really important but just something nice to know.

7) Lastly Mito is a full blooded Uzumaki who are known to have enourmous life energy, as portrayed by Nagato and Kushina. It wouldnt strike me as odd that Mito could use the Rebirth technique and show less signs of aging as other people simply for the fact that her being an Uzumaki counters the aging effects.

 

[SanguineJackal]

I love the idea of her having a blank canvas for Kishi to play with- it could turn out truly impressive. But one thing I would LOVE to see is..... Sakura using chakra scalpels. The smart thing at that point that I'm sure she would figure out no problem? Severing Sasuke's optical nerves should he try anything stupid.

 

[ethris]

Ok, so today I feel as though i need to address something that has made me question what Sakura's power up may be when she does release it.

First let us clarify for those who do not know what the seal is and how it works.

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By storing chakra over an extended period of time into a specific point on their body, usually the forehead; the user creates this seal which manifests in the form of a rhombus-like marking. Once the seal is formed, the user's already impressive chakra control which is necessary to concentrate the chakra over the period of time allows them to perform techniques without any wasted stamina or chakra.

Now this tells us the seal just contains chakra which can be used any way the user desires.

Tsunade Senju:

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Tsunade uses her seal to amplify her medical abilities. We have seen her use two techniques she created herself (to our knowledge) to utilize the seal.

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Creation rebirth : The absolute pinnacle of medical ninjutsu, created by the greatest of medical ninja, Tsunade, it is the ultimate regeneration technique. By releasing the great volume of chakra stored in her forehead at once, the body's cell division is forcibly stimulated by proteins, reconstructing all organs and all tissues making up the human body

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Byakugou: While very similar in nature to its parent technique which facilitates the regeneration of injuries through accelerated cell division, it however does not require the use of hand seals, meaning Tsunade's wounds begin to heal as soon as they are inflicted.

These two techniques created by Tsunade do however have terrible drawbacks as they shorten her life span. For the simple reason that cells are dividing so rapidly during these techniques and cells can only divide a certain amount of times in their life time.

Tsunade herself knows the drawbacks of her jutsu, and also that her blood-line possibly allows her to be risky with these forbidden techniques. She knew Sakura was in preparation to attain the seal as she is the one who passed it down to her.

However Tsunade is the only one confirmed by her to have mastered the byakugou technique.

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I will only use this lightly as proof because technically at the time Sakura has not awakened the seal yet. I do strongly believe that Tsunade would not teach Sakura such dangerous techniques to use. Which may leave you to wonder what she could possibly have to use now.

Sakura Haruno​

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Some may say Sakura could create a way to bypass the effects of the creation rebirth and byakugou techniques. While she could probably lessen them. It it basically impossible to reverse the effects of cells that have already divided their share of times. (for now, you know kishi)

Now to the real point. I believe that there is another technique of the yin seal that is unknown to us that sakura may reveal to us. That technique or techniques belong to none other than!

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Yes, Mito uzumaki. She is the only other (known) wielder of the seal Tsunade and Sakura both poses. Mito had been known to be great with sealing techniques and also to be quite the fighter. She probably used that seal in combat.

However, Mito does not seem to have used it in the way as tsunade because she had shown age. We see her in a flashback of kushina when she was going to become the new jinchuriki as an old woman. She doesn't look older than she should have been in that picture either. We have seen the effects of the jutsu tsunade uses on her in parts. she looks way older than mito.

So I am of the assumption that Sakura may have learned a technique of Mito Uzumaki instead of Tsunade. While us fans would like to see Sakura regenerate like a beast, I just feel as though she may not go to those extremes. Sakura should know better than anyone else the drawbacks of Tsunade's jutsu.

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^^ Yet she made fun of Tsunade in a sense about this, knowing that it would be her fate soon I don't think she would do that.

Plus this would open up a window for us to learn a little bit more about Mito Uzumaki as we didn't see or hear mention of her in the Hashirama flashback.

Maybe our little insight on Mito will happen during Sakura's demonstration??

So please share your thoughts if you bother reading any of this. I would appreciate it ^_^ If you bother to try and come here and harrass me or try i will not give you a second look. Not worth it.

since when was mito known to have the same seal...............

 

[Joshutsu]

Sakura doing genjutsu sounds a bit too forced to me. A darky twist won´t stop me thinking "Weezer" so as Sakura are really rigid thinking fellows playing it smoothly. Meaning having Sakura apply one ninja tech besides #kunai-ing or not doing so nor anything won´t tell more about her character.

I liked Sakura alright in the 1st part and the start of the 2nd up to the serpent´s pupile,but god almighty, it´s too long with an actionless character keeping on and on the same straight line.
Ok, I cross my fingers for something to happen! PeACe

I refer to genjutsu more on the anti genjutsu side such as being able to dispel high level genjutsu.

i like it, this sounds really great. last we saw sakura, she was healing the alliance and she said herself she hasnt shown her true power yet. more is coming with her, and in my opinion it makes sense to say whatever her seal does...it will probably help break tsuki no me or we will see proof of that genjutsu knack weve heard of (via of course, breaking the genjutsu).

sasuke and naruto's abilities compliment each other well. sasuke has genjutsu casting abilities, fire and lightening elements and a summon. naruto has kurama, sage mode, summoning, and wind element giving him rasengan, and then sakura has precise chakra control, is intelligent, medical ninja, seal we havent learned about and now a summoning. whatever is left for her, will compliment sasuke and naruto's combo most likely. i dont think she will get mokuton (unless she gave herself some senju dna somehow)..slug sage mode is not likely at this point..i see only naruto having sage mode because the show is called naruto and it would make sense to not give that to sasuke and sakura. sakura does supposedly have a genjutsu breaking ability thats great because its been noted and seen in the manga. this however has always been associated with her, yet shes not shown any real feat to it. to me, kishi has saved her for last (well her naruto and sasuke's final developments for last) i think sakura is going to show her skills and break everyone out of the genjutsu...then of course sasuke and naruto and company take back over. if she does fight again, it will be with naruto against sasuke (again my opinon of what i see happening) there isnt much more he can do for her right now at this point. what do you guys think?

I don't really think she would break everyone out of it. Herself seems more logical since i think Naruto and Sasuke are already safe from it or so i would presume. Then the three of them could do something about it?

 

[Joshutsu]

1) You say these 2 techniques, but you had only mentioned one. Even at that I assume you mean the Byakguo and her Yin Seal.

2) The Yin Seal has no draw backs, it is merely stored Chakra, Byakguo (Pretty sure im not spelling that right) on the other hand reduces her lifespan because it causes her cells to split at an accelerated rate. The interesting thing is that this is actually a scientific theory, albeit non conclusive and challenged, but a theory nontheless. She gets around looking old with a 3rd Jutsu which causes her to look young.

3) Its unclear whether or not Tsunade's Bloodline comes into play here, remember she is only 1/4th Senju.

4) You say that Sakura would not use the Rebirth Jutsu, but you forget that using that technique is not a choice, Tsunade only used it after she took a fatal blow from Madara, and I believe that if Sakura takes a fatal blow, regardless of how risky it may be, she will use the technique.

5) To say that Sakura would use Mito's techniques raises the question of who teaches it to her, if the answer is Tsunade then that begs the question why havent we seen Tsunade use them?

6) An interesting thing you failed to notice was that Hashirama knew about Tsunade's strenght. Yet he hasnt met her since being an Edo and died when she was relatively young, like really young. Which would mean that Tsunade mastered the Yin Seal at an extremely young age. Not really important but just something nice to know.

7) Lastly Mito is a full blooded Uzumaki who are known to have enourmous life energy, as portrayed by Nagato and Kushina. It wouldnt strike me as odd that Mito could use the Rebirth technique and show less signs of aging as other people simply for the fact that her being an Uzumaki counters the aging effects.

The two techniques I am talking about are Creation rebirth and byakugou. I know about the seal, i even put a definition of it in the beginning soo I know that that in itself is not harmful to her.

Tsunade used byakugo to fight. She used it before madara attacked her obviously to secure her safety in battle as a medical ninja.

I am not 100% sure her blood line comes into play either but the senju and uzumaki bloodlines combined i say why not the uzumaki have been known for longevity and the senju strong.

Also I'm pretty sure there is documentation of all jutsu, Sakura has access to these files. It could be her learning the technique herself or Tsunade teaching it to her.

Also you fail to realise Tsunade's strength is pretty dangerous even when it isn't enhanced with her seal. I have adequate flashbacks to prove Tsunade did not have the seal until sometime after the war when the sannin split up. Her forehead was bare for most of these flashbacks and when she faced orochimaru he didn't know about it or what it was.

How can you say you aren't sure if blood line has a part to play in byakugo effects and then say Mito probably could use it without showing signs of aging for being Uzumaki anyway? :S We've seen Mito in her old age which is why i am led to believe she did not abuse the effects of the byakugo.

Shizune herself said and it is a fact, cells can only divide a certain amount of times in their lifetime. If Mito was using that technique alot she would have shown it. Until further notice it is presumed Tsunade invented both techniques she uses her seal to perform.

I love the idea of her having a blank canvas for Kishi to play with- it could turn out truly impressive. But one thing I would LOVE to see is..... Sakura using chakra scalpels. The smart thing at that point that I'm sure she would figure out no problem? Severing Sasuke's optical nerves should he try anything stupid.

She has to know chakra scapel, I think it's a basic for medical ninjas. However we never seen her use it offensively or need to use it when healing.

since when was mito known to have the same seal...............

Uhh maybe because it's depicted as the same colour and such in the anime. It looks the same, what else could it be?

 

[Mr Hiru]

1) You say these 2 techniques, but you had only mentioned one. Even at that I assume you mean the Byakguo and her Yin Seal.

2) The Yin Seal has no draw backs, it is merely stored Chakra, Byakguo (Pretty sure im not spelling that right) on the other hand reduces her lifespan because it causes her cells to split at an accelerated rate. The interesting thing is that this is actually a scientific theory, albeit non conclusive and challenged, but a theory nontheless. She gets around looking old with a 3rd Jutsu which causes her to look young.

3) Its unclear whether or not Tsunade's Bloodline comes into play here, remember she is only 1/4th Senju.

4) You say that Sakura would not use the Rebirth Jutsu, but you forget that using that technique is not a choice, Tsunade only used it after she took a fatal blow from Madara, and I believe that if Sakura takes a fatal blow, regardless of how risky it may be, she will use the technique.

5) To say that Sakura would use Mito's techniques raises the question of who teaches it to her, if the answer is Tsunade then that begs the question why havent we seen Tsunade use them?

6) An interesting thing you failed to notice was that Hashirama knew about Tsunade's strenght. Yet he hasnt met her since being an Edo and died when she was relatively young, like really young. Which would mean that Tsunade mastered the Yin Seal at an extremely young age. Not really important but just something nice to know.

7) Lastly Mito is a full blooded Uzumaki who are known to have enourmous life energy, as portrayed by Nagato and Kushina. It wouldnt strike me as odd that Mito could use the Rebirth technique and show less signs of aging as other people simply for the fact that her being an Uzumaki counters the aging effects.

Agreed in almost every question you put, but there are some argumenting style that I'd like to argue...

Telling that "people can't use some techniques just because they haven't using them throughout the serie" is quite a debatable argument itself, even if they cause some doubt... but you know that Kishimoto has its wildcards well hidden so he could make late cliffhanger, that's just like him. That is known as "circumstancial ad hominem" and it is a non-conclusive way to deny possibilities. I'd ask you to be careful to deny possibilities with that resource, since that is a vague claim and not a hard proof that denies possibilities.

For example, I'd like to summon a possibility that has a quite high chance for Tsunade to teach Uzumaki/Senju skills to Sakura, and that would be something as simple as a Scroll. Sakura is the bookworm kind of character that could learn skills through book study, and even Naruto most used jutsu was learned thanks to the Shodai Scroll. If Sakura manages to show a technique of that nature, then that couldn't be called an asspull, since it was done before.