Hiruzen is way too underrated

[Headmaster]

Nope he is weak. He losses to sakura if they fought.

 

[Penguin]

Nope he is weak. He losses to sakura if they fought.

Ha. Hahahah!

 

[realobito1]

50%? More like 5%-10%. Hiruzen is underrated but don't go saying Tobirama and Hashirama were half powered in that fight. That was a fraction.

This really, at most you could say they were at 20% actual strength.

BS, They were atleast half strength, I am sure they just did not get to use there more powerful stuff. Know you are just disrespecting the old hokage.

 

[ObitoGokuKakashi]

Yup he is. But it's Kishis fault, he makes him Hokage, gives him the title God Of Shinobi and gives him not the feats that he needs where you could actually see Why he is called a freakin' GOD ... instead he gives him a <3 Attack ...

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[Punk Hazard]

Technically, what is Hashirama doing at a time like this? He should be facing the real threat... "God of Shinobi"

When Obit became the Juubi's Jink, who was the first to act? Not Hiruzen. Hashirama, being a Sage, would be better than Hiruzen against Obito, seeing as all Hiruzen did was chuck shuriken then get fodderized while Madara himself had to intervene when Hashi started advancing towards Obito.

 

[Trollasaur]

"50%? More like 5%-10%. Hiruzen is underrated but don't go saying Tobirama and Hashirama were half powered in that fight. That was a fraction."

lololollolollolollollololollolol seriously? And Hiruzen wasn't at full power either.

 

[Penguin]

BS, They were atleast half strength, I am sure they just did not get to use there more powerful stuff. Know you are just disrespecting the old hokage.

At least half strength? Are you delusional? Hashirama made some tree's and Tobirama used 2 suitons. Now do you see what they are using?

"50%? More like 5%-10%. Hiruzen is underrated but don't go saying Tobirama and Hashirama were half powered in that fight. That was a fraction."

lololollolollolollollololollolol seriously? And Hiruzen wasn't at full power either.

Did I say Hiruzen was?

 

[Lord Naruto San]

Not 50% because Hashirama could break the edo jutsu probably like 5 percentage and only way he could beat em in by sacrificing himself to stop Oro and the kages

 

[BlacLord™]

50%? It was around 10% considering the feats we've seen now, making your wood hard on a little rooftop doesn't compare to matching Kyuubi sized wood and same for Tobirama, one or two Suiton and no FTG.

 

[Meee]

U mad? I understand that nothing can really kill Obito, but he was doing his part in figuring out Obtio's abilities showcasing his "Professor" feats.

Sure, I get that nothing can really kill Obito but his efforts where pitiful I mean Minato went KCM, the dude was putting in work, Hashirama threw big ass Gates down from the skys, Tobirama while ripped in half placed a seal on Obito and did some big ass suicide explosion, bomb shit and then Hiruzen threw big Shuriken, Honestly I don't see us getting anymore from this dude, if he had something that was the time to use it

 

[Joon]

When Obit became the Juubi's Jink, who was the first to act? Not Hiruzen. Hashirama, being a Sage, would be better than Hiruzen against Obito, seeing as all Hiruzen did was chuck shuriken then get fodderized while Madara himself had to intervene when Hashi started advancing towards Obito.

Kishi set this up for plot. Hashirama Sage Mode to Naruto Sage Mode, at this point? Obito would have been killed by Hashirama. Stupid plot. Anyway, he did his part being nickname the Professor in analyzing Obito's abilities. What else epicness Ninjutsu would have Hurizen performed to injure Obito that Tobimaru or Minato have not pulled off? Nothing. His attack would still mean nothing and scratched off like a fly.

Sure, I get that nothing can really kill Obito but his efforts where pitiful I mean Minato went KCM, the dude was putting in work, Hashirama, threw big ass Gates down from the skys, Tobirama while ripped in half placed a seal on Obito and did some big ass suicide explosion, bomb shit and then Hiruzen threw big Shuriken, Honestly I don't see us getting anymore from this dude, if he had something that was the time to use it

Kishi creativeness has went to the toilet along with his Manga. It is about to be flush by the industry because he is not bring in enough income.

What I mean to say is Hurizen is not showing any great Ninjutsu feat which tops Modes and Kekkei Genkai.

 

[Trollasaur]

50%? It was around 10% considering the feats we've seen now, making your wood hard on a little rooftop doesn't compare to matching Kyuubi sized wood and same for Tobirama, one or two Suiton and no FTG.

That Woodstyle was an S rank tech, Tobirama used High level suiton too, the shit came for the air doooode3, and Hashirama used A rank genjutsu, there taijutsu wasn't nerfed etieher and old Hiruzen kept up with them

If Hashi could use buddah it would collapse the whole area down, and the wood dragon would be useless in the situation.
The only attacks that would cause a problem for Old Man Hiruzen would Be Tobiramas suicide attack and possiably FTG.

Hiruzen more than likeley had a perfect 40 in the databook btw, just sayian

 

[Penguin]

That Woodstyle was an S rank tech, Tobirama used High level suiton too, the shit came for the air doooode3, and Hashirama used A rank genjutsu, there taijutsu wasn't nerfed etieher and old Hiruzen kept up with them

If Hashi could use buddah it would collapse the whole area down, and the wood dragon would be useless in the situation.
The only attacks that would cause a problem for Old Man Hiruzen would Be Tobiramas suicide attack and possiably FTG.

Hiruzen more than likeley had a perfect 40 in the databook btw, just sayian

Wood Dragon would ROFLstomp Hiruzen. Anything Hashirama has shown while being an Orochimaru Edo destroys Hiruzen. Tobirama has FTG, and Edo Tensei feats. You are simply stunning sir.

 

[SeriousDogg]

U can say whatever u want, Hirzuen is not called god of shinobi for nothing and I bet we will see someday some crazy things from his past, he is probably was little weaker than Tobirama, but he is still above Itachi and Sasuke/Kakashi.

 

[Lrrrrr]

He is very underrated, but a better character than most of the ones that keep getting shown. Plus, everyone saying that Hashi and Tobirama were at 5-50% when fighting Hiruzen, is complete BS. Oro perfected it which means its really good, which would imply that they were much higher than the percent given. Only reason why you see Hashirama and Tobirama using godlike skills now is because Kishi screwed up and didn't know he wanted to make them that strong.

 

[MuerteMiAmigo]

didnt tobi's black ninja erasing orbs kill him? or is it only when tobi is in his "sage" form

 

[Penguin]

He is very underrated, but a better character than most of the ones that keep getting shown. Plus, everyone saying that Hashi and Tobirama were at 5-50% when fighting Hiruzen, is complete BS. Oro perfected it which means its really good, which would imply that they were much higher than the percent given. Only reason why you see Hashirama and Tobirama using godlike skills now is because Kishi screwed up and didn't know he wanted to make them that strong.

Orochimaru perfected it in part 2. In part 1 his Edos stunk.

 

[Souji]

No feats? Laughable.

Orochimaru, easily a Kage level shinobi, had to purposely ambush Hiruzen, set up a home court advantage with the Sound Four barrier, and use two Jounin-level Edos before he could even feel confident about fighting a weak, old Hiruzen that was long gone from his prime.

And the old man still kicked his ass.

 

[Lrrrrr]

Orochimaru perfected it in part 2. In part 1 his Edos stunk.

I disagree because Kabuto said that Oro perfected the Edo Tensei (before Orochimaru got the 4 Hokage back) which would mean Kabuto meant it the first time Oro used it, which is in part 1. They did stink, but as I said last post, Kishi messed up.

 

[Trollasaur]

Wood Dragon would ROFLstomp Hiruzen. Anything Hashirama has shown while being an Orochimaru Edo destroys Hiruzen. Tobirama has FTG, and Edo Tensei feats. You are simply stunning sir.

It would be useless in the situation it's too damn big lol

Orchimaru also admited he would be destroyed if Hiruzen was 10 years younger lol