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He only knew his name. -_- that dont count. Not to me anyways. They didnt have a real relationship till they got on the same team. Edo tensei has no weakness kabuto stated it himself.
  1. wrong. naruto know sasuke since academy days
  2. all characters made mistakes... even kabuto
 

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Let's hope man, if Orochimaru is truly good then I do not know what to say lol
i think oro is just biding his time . Nothing indicates to me that he is good . Remember he cant pursue his plans either if infinite tsukiyomi happens . So for now he is teaming with the alliance
 

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i disagree with you.. i read bunch of books and even wrote my own stories and plots. kishi is going downhill with naruto, he is changing the whole plot too fast. or does he not have any ideas on how to make naruto turn sasuke good again?
although he is a good character when it comes to themes, he is a poor writer when it comes to characterization.
cant be that bad a writer . im sure you read every week
 

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Kishi is a poor.
No, allow me to rewrite that. Kishi is a piss poor writer.

Contradictory
Cliche
Hypocrite
Inconsistent

You name it.

Now ill address those who say, "Its free, you haven't paid money therefore you cannot complain".

Not quiet.

Yes i haven't spent a penny on naruto (something i am pleased about too), but you see i have wasted something. Something far more valuable and not retrievable unlike money. That is time.

Imo time > money

For those that picked up the manga from its very beginning, its not as simple as suddenly dumping it.
If you have watched something from the start and its near its end, its almost ridiculous and pointless to drop it now and if anything these people such as myself, feel imprisoned.

Now if i was given a chance to do this all again, i will say no thanks.
If i knew that this is how the manga will turn out before i started reading it, i am positive i would have skipped.

Finally ill return to books if i decide i want to read a story
 
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Kishi is a poor.
No, allow me to rewrite that. Kishi is a piss poor writer.

Contradictory
Cliche
Hypocrite
Inconsistent

You name it.

Now ill address those who say, "Its free, you haven't paid money therefore you cannot complain".

Not quiet.

Yes i haven't spent a penny on naruto (something i am pleased about too), but you see i have wasted something. Something far more valuable and not retrievable unlike money. That is time.

Imo time > money

For those that picked up the manga from its very beginning, its not as simple as suddenly dumping it.
If you have watched something from the start and its near its end, its almost ridiculous and pointless to drop it now and if anything these people such as myself, feel imprisoned.

Now if i was given a chance to do this all again, i will say no thanks.
If i knew that this is how the manga will turn out before i started reading it, i am positive i would have skipped.

Finally ill return to books if i decide i want to read a story
Talking like a real prophet Lol. My thoughts exactly. I can't add anything to this. You already stated all what is in my mind
 

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aye, if peeps that say kishi is a bad writer, they should just leave the base and stop reading naruto manga and watching it :stfu:
 

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Kishi isn't a bad writer though what I want him to do is give Ino some new techniques that are either offensive or defensive and yeah some more supplementary that she can use on others instead of you know mostly supporting
 

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You're right, he isn't a bad writer. He is ****ing terrible.

Try reading some good manga instead of a below average shonen like Naruto.

Kishi is a poor.
No, allow me to rewrite that. Kishi is a piss poor writer.

Contradictory
Cliche
Hypocrite
Inconsistent

You name it.

Now ill address those who say, "Its free, you haven't paid money therefore you cannot complain".

Not quiet.

Yes i haven't spent a penny on naruto (something i am pleased about too), but you see i have wasted something. Something far more valuable and not retrievable unlike money. That is time.

Imo time > money

For those that picked up the manga from its very beginning, its not as simple as suddenly dumping it.
If you have watched something from the start and its near its end, its almost ridiculous and pointless to drop it now and if anything these people such as myself, feel imprisoned.

Now if i was given a chance to do this all again, i will say no thanks.
If i knew that this is how the manga will turn out before i started reading it, i am positive i would have skipped.

Finally ill return to books if i decide i want to read a story

Wait... you're giving up on manga because of Naruto? That's like giving up on food after eating shit. Read some good manga. Google search a bit and you'll encounter manga that fits you, and you'll really enjoy.
Btw, search on genres. Seinen, Shojo, Shounen, etc. If you enjoy bloody/more adult themes, seinen is your thing. If you like a bit of romance, go Shojo. And last, if you like boy-ish adventures/story you'll like Shounen.
 
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Wait... you're giving up on manga because of Naruto? That's like giving up on food after eating shit. Read some good manga. Google search a bit and you'll encounter manga that fits you, and you'll really enjoy.

Never been into manga/anime, friend introduced me to naruto and that was it .Though i have watched some other anime along the way, the only manga i read is naruto so after its finished that is me and manga done.

Besides reading manga has never been the right way. You never know what each week holds. One week it might be okay, the next week the author might be trolling.

I know a couple of people who read bleach and i swear they losing their hair due to the apparent nonsense that bleach has become. This was a couple of years back though, dunno how it is now.

I will be returning to books if i decide i want a story to read
 

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I honestly dont see the point of using that "reading naruto for a long time,thats why i cant just quit it" if you honestly losted compassion for the "naruto" manga to the point where you ridicule the author then i honestly dont know why you keep reading it? It isnt that hard to stop reading it.

You call him a piss poor writer but contine to read every single chapter when it comes out... that only makes you look like a retard. No matter how long ive been reading naruto if i dont like it anymore then why bother with it?

If you dont enjoy it anymore i honestly see no reason of continuing reading it. The fact that you still log onto a site which is based off of naruto makes you look more dum.

Dont ridicule kishis work if your still foolish enough to read it.
 
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I honestly dont see the point of using that "reading naruto for a long time,thats why i cant just quit it" if you honestly losted compassion for the "naruto" manga to the point where you ridicule the author then i honestly dont know why you keep reading it? It isnt that hard to stop reading it.

You call him a piss poor writer but contine to read every single chapter when it comes out... that only makes you look like a retard. No matter how long ive been reading naruto if i dont like it anymore then why bother with it?

If you dont enjoy it anymore i honestly see no reason of continuing reading it. The fact that you still log onto a site which is based off of naruto makes you look more dum.

Dont ridicule kishis work if your still foolish enough to read it.

Should have quoted me since you are replying to me.

As i said, i have seen the beginning, the middle and im near its end. Might as well finish it and move on, that simple.
Wasted quiet a bit of time on it, to give up when i am nearly there.

Its basically like a marathon.
When you have done all the laps and you are on your final lap, you might as well complete it as giving up now, makes the previous laps worthless and a waste of time

As for logging on, i reply to vm's/pm's
 

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I honestly dont see the point of using that "reading naruto for a long time,thats why i cant just quit it" if you honestly losted compassion for the "naruto" manga to the point where you ridicule the author then i honestly dont know why you keep reading it? It isnt that hard to stop reading it.

You call him a piss poor writer but contine to read every single chapter when it comes out... that only makes you look like a retard. No matter how long ive been reading naruto if i dont like it anymore then why bother with it?

If you dont enjoy it anymore i honestly see no reason of continuing reading it. The fact that you still log onto a site which is based off of naruto makes you look more dum.

Dont ridicule kishis work if your still foolish enough to read it.
One question. Have you already supported a team in your entire life? And when i say supporting it means supporting them whether they win or loses until the last second of a match. Have you already seen said team losing by a great margin(6-0) during the first half or even when the match is almost at it's end, but still hoping that some kind of miracle happens before the match ends despite self-knowing that considering time, it won't happen? It's exactly how i feel about Naruto currently. A manga i used to like, support more than anything else. Despite knowing the manga is shit currently, i'm still hoping that some sort of miracle will happen with the author(kishi) finally coming back to reason despite deeply in my mind i know that it already entered a point of no return

Personally i log on this base only because it's the only base i know where i can go to spend my boring time. Honestly if the one piece section was more active than the naruto section on this base for example, you'd have only rarely meet me again on this part of the forum
 

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One question. Have you already supported a team in your entire life? And when i say supporting it means supporting them whether they win or loses until the last second of a match. Have you already seen said team losing by a great margin(6-0) during the first half or even when the match is almost at it's end, but still hoping that some kind of miracle happens before the match ends despite self-knowing that considering time, it won't happen? It's exactly how i feel about Naruto currently. A manga i used to like, support more than anything else. Despite knowing the manga is shit currently, i'm still hoping that some sort of miracle will happen with the author(kishi) finally coming back to reason despite deeply in my mind i know that it already entered a point of no return

Personally i log on this base only because it's the only base i know where i can go to spend my boring time. Honestly if the one piece section was more active than the naruto section on this base for example, you'd have only rarely meet me again on this part of the forum

@bold: Hmm, its unfortunate but currently I agree with this. I'm sure the debates would be just as interesting if not more over there.
 

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Should have quoted me since you are replying to me.

As i said, i have seen the beginning, the middle and im near its end. Might as well finish it and move on, that simple.
Wasted quiet a bit of time on it, to give up when i am nearly there.

Its basically like a marathon.
When you have done all the laps and you are on your final lap, you might as well complete it as giving up now, makes the previous laps worthless and a waste of time

As for logging on, i reply to vm's/pm's

Should have quoted me since you are replying to me.

I mean i thought it was pretty clear i was replying to you as seeing i quoted some stuff you said? xd

I dont really want to get turnt up on you as seeing me and you are bros but oh well.

you keep saying,"might as well finish it since its near done"

do you like naruto? i guessing you dont anymore?

you clearly said kishi is a piss poor writer but continue to read his story which obviously means you still find it somewhat enjoyable.

The way your speaking, it sounds like your honestly sick of naruto and you simply dont like it anymore? Why not save your time from from kishis piss poor story and start read those books you were mentioning earlier? :rolleyes:

loggin on to nb just to take vm"s from random people over the internet which you will probably never meet in rl? haha dont play that bull shit here bro.

no disrespect, your my mate and your cool but your on some bull shit right now

One question. Have you already supported a team in your entire life? And when i say supporting it means supporting them whether they win or loses until the last second of a match. Have you already seen said team losing by a great margin(6-0) during the first half or even when the match is almost at it's end, but still hoping that some kind of miracle happens before the match ends despite self-knowing that considering time, it won't happen? It's exactly how i feel about Naruto currently. A manga i used to like, support more than anything else. Despite knowing the manga is shit currently, i'm still hoping that some sort of miracle will happen with the author(kishi) finally coming back to reason despite deeply in my mind i know that it already entered a point of no return

Personally i log on this base only because it's the only base i know where i can go to spend my boring time. Honestly if the one piece section was more active than the naruto section on this base for example, you'd have only rarely meet me again on this part of the forum

so basically you have hope for the manga as you said which basically means you still enjoy it? ...... Zzz

Personally i log on this base only because it's the only base i know where i can go to spend my boring time. Honestly if the one piece section was more active than the naruto section on this base for example, you'd have only rarely meet me again on this part of the forum

Um no offense but when im bored like earlier i simply go outside and play some basketball... or go to my friends house or sleep..


the problem here is being impantient, look at what kubo did with bleach.. have you seen the latest chaps? they are amazing and full of twists. People said bleach was starting to become crap but kubo just shut them up.

calling a author a bad writer but continuing to read every chapter every single time its released... i mean... how idiotic can you get.
 
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so basically you have hope for the manga as you said which basically means you still enjoy it? ...... Zzz

Personally i log on this base only because it's the only base i know where i can go to spend my boring time. Honestly if the one piece section was more active than the naruto section on this base for example, you'd have only rarely meet me again on this part of the forum

Um no offense but when im bored like earlier i simply go outside and play some basketball... or go to my friends house or sleep..


the problem here is being impantient, look at what kubo did with bleach.. have you seen the latest chaps? they are amazing and full of twists. People said bleach was starting to become crap but kubo just shut them up.

calling a author a bad writer but continuing to read every chapter every single time its released... i mean... how idiotic can you get.
*sigh* Seems that you won't get it. I'm hoping this manga to become good again because currently it's shit. I wasted too much time on this manga for me to leave it just like this when said manga is supposed to be close to its end. I'm just sad that the manga i wasted too much time on turned out to be this ridiculous in its final arc. Honestly if i were to start Naruto after the Pain arc, i would have skipped it away since long time ago, exactly like i did with Bleach after Aizen's death. I skipped Bleach because i didn't waste too much time on it to begin with in the contrary of Naruto. If i were to advice someone who wants to read Naruto, i'll just tell him to read it until Pain arc, but not further because the rest became shit, inconsistant, illogical
 

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Should have quoted me since you are replying to me.

I mean i thought it was pretty clear i was replying to you as seeing i quoted some stuff you said? xd

I dont really want to get turnt up on you as seeing me and you are bros but oh well.

you keep saying,"might as well finish it since its near done"

do you like naruto? i guessing you dont anymore?

you clearly said kishi is a piss poor writer but continue to read his story which obviously means you still find it somewhat enjoyable.

The way your speaking, it sounds like your honestly sick of naruto and you simply dont like it anymore? Why not save your time from from kishis piss poor story and start read those books you were mentioning earlier? :rolleyes:

loggin on to nb just to take vm"s from random people over the internet which you will probably never meet in rl? haha dont play that bull shit here bro.

no disrespect, your my mate and your cool but your on some bull shit right now

-Sigh-, this is prolly what happens when its only naruto or comic in general you read.

Ill explain again.
If there are 18 laps and you have completed 17. On your 18th lap, you have about 40m to go, even if your legs burn as hell, you will still try your best to complete it.

Perhaps that isn't your mentality, but that is mine. Once i know i am approaching the end of something i cannot give up now, its just simple.

Nd its true my email is connected to my nb, so pm gets sent there. I come to reply to people and once in a while state an opinion on something (Like this for example).

But do not be mistaken, kishi really isn't a good writer. Perhaps you haven't read much.
Do not get me wrong, i have in past compared him to other writers, but then i come to my sense and realize that comparing a manga writer to a true writer was a fail on my part
 

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the problem here is being impantient, look at what kubo did with bleach.. have you seen the latest chaps? they are amazing and full of twists. People said bleach was starting to become crap but kubo just shut them up.

Lol this is actually so true, bleach just turned into an amazing manga recently. I'm definitely holding out for something like that in naruto (not saying the manga is bad, but the story was literally going nowhere for a while. The last two chapters have kicked the story up a bit).
 

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Ofc he is not bad,but you know how these things work,deadlines,lots of characters to play around,its kinda hard to orchestrate a war.One of the things i didnt like is that he didnt give a crap about the konoha rookies,great characters they had potential to develop.
 

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-Sigh-, this is prolly what happens when its only naruto or comic in general you read.

Ill explain again.
If there are 18 laps and you have completed 17. On your 18th lap, you have about 40m to go, even if your legs burn as hell, you will still try your best to complete it.

Perhaps that isn't your mentality, but that is mine. Once i know i am approaching the end of something i cannot give up now, its just simple.

Nd its true my email is connected to my nb, so pm gets sent there. I come to reply to people and once in a while state an opinion on something (Like this for example).

But do not be mistaken, kishi really isn't a good writer. Perhaps you haven't read much.
Do not get me wrong, i have in past compared him to other writers, but then i come to my sense and realize that comparing a manga writer to a true writer was a fail on my part

It seems we simply have diff opinions, your obligated to thinking his a piss poor writer and still reading his story as you like.

and honestly you keep saying were near the end of the story so its not easy to just give it up.

Your sick of the story.Fact.

You even ridicule the author.Fact.

You simply dont like it anymore.Fact.

Me personally in your position i would had simply stop reading it by now. you have nothing to lose if you do stop reading now as seeing you dont like it anymore. But you have your own reasons which i must respect.

*sigh* Seems that you won't get it. I'm hoping this manga to become good again because currently it's shit. I wasted too much time on this manga for me to leave it just like this when said manga is supposed to be close to its end. I'm just sad that the manga i wasted too much time on turned out to be this ridiculous in its final arc. Honestly if i were to start Naruto after the Pain arc, i would have skipped it away since long time ago, exactly like i did with Bleach after Aizen's death. I skipped Bleach because i didn't waste too much time on it to begin with in the contrary of Naruto. If i were to advice someone who wants to read Naruto, i'll just tell him to read it until Pain arc, but not further because the rest became shit, inconsistant, illogical

If i were to advice someone who wants to read Naruto, i'll just tell him to read it until Pain arc, but not further because the rest became shit, inconsistant, illogical

I"d understand that if the manga was finished but currently you are still reading pass the pain arc... i hope you know how idiotic you made yourself just sound. Oh the irony...


your hoping for the manga to be good again? Its not even bad..

your saying its not as simple to just stop reading it because ita near its end.. is it honestly that hard?

you dont like it currently? You disrespect the author? Your not enjoying it anymore?

I say save yourself the trouble now and simply stop reading it to save yourself from future disappoint as seeing you have been complaining about the recent chapters...
 
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If i were to advice someone who wants to read Naruto, i'll just tell him to read it until Pain arc, but not further because the rest became shit, inconsistant, illogical

I"d understand that if the manga was finished but currently you are still reading pass the pain arc... i hope you know how idiotic you made yourself just sound. Oh the irony...


your hoping for the manga to be good again? Its not even bad..

your saying its not as simple to just stop reading it because ita near its end.. is it honestly that hard?

you dont like it currently? You disrespect the author? Your not enjoying it anymore?

I say save yourself the trouble now and simply stop reading it to save yourself from future disappoint as seeing you have been complaining about the recent chapters...
-sigh- Once again i'll take the example of a team you support. Are you enjoying your time when you see your team losing 6-0? Obviously not, but there is still some sort of hopeless behaviour/hope that the team you support would miraculously come back to win the match despite deeply knowing it won't happen. I'm not enjoying my time one bit while reading Naruto currently and that since long time ago. I just have a hopeless behaviour/hope that things will change despite the fact i deeply know it won't be the case because of the amount of inconsistencies in this manga that Kishi never tried to cover, which makes me feel that i'm reading a manga that makes no sense at all, boring, just wasting my time. Honestly, actually i'd be glad if i heard that tomorrow was the last chapter of the manga because currently i'm more like in prison more than anything else. Yes it's that hard to stop a manga that you spent too much time on already when you know that few yards away it's almost the end of said manga. I already read it this far, why not finish it then?
 
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