The most spoon fed character in naruto

[Tingun]

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Your point is invalid

Already covered the fact that he wasn't spoon fed until after the 2 tomoe sharingan. Read the OP next time bro.
# umad?

 

[shelke]

@Trollasaur Even with all the mentioned points if you still believe so, then you are being grossly subjective. Not a very good stance.

 

[Trollasaur]

Already covered the fact that he wasn't spoon fed until after the 2 tomoe sharingan. Read the OP next time bro.
# umad?

Me mad? No you said in the post that I replied too that Obito didn't train when he was weak......

 

[saw2097]

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Your point is invalid

I would like to point out that Obito didn't use Fire Release until quite recently, most of the abilities he has used lately stem from Kamui and Senju DNA which were spoon fed to him. He has only used Fire Release and other abilities a few times so far.

But he must have trained off screen (like Sakura) as his Fire Release is on Madara's level and that's something that can't be spoon fed as far as we know.

 

[Trollasaur]

@Trollasaur Even with all the mentioned points if you still believe so, then you are being grossly subjective. Not a very good stance.

How is that? Good sir, lets see
Obito and Sauske both trained hard
Obito and Sauske both went through hard emotional tramua

Sauske
Itachi Planed for him to get MS
Obito gave him EMS
His life was saved multiple times from his teamates and Obito
Was given curse mark
Itachi sealed curse mark
Few things I'm forgetting

Obito
Was given senju DNA
Worked for everything else.

(Unclear how he survived the rocks lol)

 

[Trollasaur]

I would like to point out that Obito didn't use Fire Release until quite recently, most of the abilities he has used lately stem from Kamui which was spoon fed to him. He has only used Fire Release and other abilities a few times so far.

But he must have trained off screen (like Sakura) as his Fire Release is on Madara's level and that's something that can't be spoon fed as far as we know.

Why would he need to train Kamui? How was he spoon fed Kamui?

 

[AlphaScythian]

How is that? Good sir, lets see
Obito and Sauske both trained hard
Obito and Sauske both went through hard emotional tramua
Sauske
Itachi Planed for him to get MS
Obito gave him EMS
His life was saved multiple times from his teamates and Obito
Few things I'm forgetting
Obito
Was given senju DNA
Worked for everything else.
(Unclear how he survived the rocks lol)

The gap is not that big and sasuke dealt with far bigger trauma thus EMS. Isnt it great senju DNA keeps you from blindness?

 

[saw2097]

Why would he need to train Kamui? How was he spoon fed Kamui?

Hmmmmm good point there. You can't really practice that Jutsu.

 

[Tingun]

Me mad? No you said in the post that I replied too that Obito didn't train when he was weak......

I said he didn't train for the power ups before he got them.

 

[Trollasaur]

I said he didn't train for the power ups before he got them.

Neither did Sauske.

 

[Trollasaur]

The gap is not that big and sasuke dealt with far bigger trauma thus EMS. Isnt it great senju DNA keeps you from blindness?

Obito was kicked around as a kid like a bag of shit
Was crushed by rocks
Gave his best friend his sharingan to protect the love of his life
Saw his best friend kill the love of his life
Noticed that the whole shinobi world is trash.

It might not be as bad, but it's defiantley bad

 

[saw2097]

The gap is not that big and sasuke dealt with far bigger trauma thus EMS. Isnt it great senju DNA keeps you from blindness?

Senju DNA doesn't prevent blindness, Kakashi uses Kamui as well but doesn't go blind. And the amount of trauma has nothing to do with EMS, that's just an eye transplant.

 

[shelke]

How is that? Good sir, lets see
Obito and Sauske both trained hard
Obito and Sauske both went through hard emotional tramua

Sauske
Itachi Planed for him to get MS
Obito gave him EMS
His life was saved multiple times from his teamates and Obito
Few things I'm forgetting

Obito
Was given senju DNA
Worked for everything else.

(Unclear how he survived the rocks lol)

You are forgetting a few factors here:

- Obito developed MS in a simple manner as well. Sasuke didn't develop MS as far as Itachi's plan goes. Had Itachi's plan gained fruition, Sasuke would have been without MS. It's the truth that helped him awaken it.

- Sasuke got EMS because of Obito's own treachery, let's not forget it. He betrayed Sasuke at the summit, henceforth even him saving Sasuke is his fault to begin with. Sasuke losing his sight and the ensuing logic to gain EMS through two MS pairs fusion; all falls on Obito's shoulder.

- He survived the rocks because of Kamui? It's a 2T technique, apparently. As Madara puts it, "You slipped through the rocks". So he developed such an advanced tech without any training, BUT, it was a near death experience, so I don't think I should begrudge him this. However, he didn't work for this, that's for sure. He didn't work for Mokuton or Rinnegan either - he technically simply stole the latter. Which was pretty clever and crafty, by the way.

- Multiple times by Obito? I only remember one and it was Obito's doing to begin with. If Sasuke has been saved multiple times, then he did the same for his team mates. Let's not forget that.

 

[Tingun]

Neither did Sauske.

Which is what I already stated earlier in the thread.

Obito:
3 tomoe
MS
Hashirama DNA
Dojutsu mechanics
1 tails
2 tails
3 tails
4 tails
5 tails
6 tails
7 tails
Geo Mazo
Edo jins

Sasuke:
MS
EMS
Cursed seal

 

[AlphaScythian]

Senju DNA doesn't prevent blindness, Kakashi uses Kamui as well but doesn't go blind. And the amount of trauma has nothing to do with EMS, that's just an eye transplant.

Your slow. EMS is compensation from itachi for such big trauma.
Kakashi doesnt go blind cuz his eye linked to obito's, which shares senju healing power thus prevents blindness.

 

[Trollasaur]

You are forgetting a few factors here:

- Obito developed MS in a simple manner as well. Sasuke didn't develop MS as far as Itachi's plan goes. Had Itachi's plan gained fruition, Sasuke would have been without MS. It's the truth that helped him awaken it.

- Sasuke got EMS because of Obito's own treachery, let's not forget it. He betrayed Sasuke at the summit, henceforth even him saving Sasuke is his fault to begin with. Sasuke losing his sight and the ensuing logic to gain EMS through two MS pairs fusion; all falls on Obito's shoulder.

- He survived the rocks because of Kamui? It's a 2T technique, apparently. As Madara puts it, "You slipped through the rocks". So he developed such an advanced tech without any training, BUT, it was a near death experience, so I don't think I should begrudge him this. However, he didn't work for this, that's for sure. He didn't work for Mokuton or Rinnegan either - he technically simply stole the latter. Which was pretty clever and crafty, by the way.

- Multiple times by Obito? I only remember one and it was Obito's doing to begin with. If Sasuke has been saved multiple times, then he did the same for his team mates. Let's not forget that.

Obito saved him on technicaly two ocasions
the five kage summit
and the Danzo fight if Obito weren't there Sauske would of been dead, Obitos presence alone in the fight was what kept him alive lol. Well if by going by what you said that it wasn't Itachis plan for Sauske to unlock MS, he's still more spoon fed.

 

[Trollasaur]

Which is what I already stated earlier in the thread.

Obito:
3 tomoe
MS
Hashirama DNA
Dojutsu mechanics
1 tails
2 tails
3 tails
4 tails
5 tails
6 tails
7 tails
Geo Mazo
Edo jins

Sasuke:
MS
EMS
Cursed seal

Only thing I see that he didn't earn legitly is the senju dna. Nothing else.

 

[Nidds]

Having Madara Uchiha teaching Obito various techs during his recovery time is a considerable help in my opinion. =D

 

[Trollasaur]

Having Madara Uchiha teaching Obito various techs during his recovery time is a considerable help in my opinion. =D

Well no shit

 

[htmwall]

Your slow. EMS is compensation from itachi for such big trauma.
Kakashi doesnt go blind cuz his eye linked to obito's, which shares senju healing power thus prevents blindness.

how obito's eye shares senju power with kakashi?wifi?
kakashi isn't blind because he doesn't overuse kamui,just look at itachi how long it took him to go blind,years.why because he barely used it.