Tsunade is not a weak Senju

[Obito3631]

I'm aware she wasn't fighting alone at the time she broke his susano what help did she recieve other than mei intercepting his katon which she woulda ran straight through, since she could tank his other katon technique, i forget its name.

The exploiting part is not of my concern, the fact he had to resort to it after he realized she was too much for him is more than enough proof of her skill, you think he woulda stepped in after she came to her senses and started pounding oro. He still didn't take her out after that he just punched her and left her alone, hardly 'destroying' her IMO.

The point is Madara wasnt entirely focused on Tsunade, other were attacking him, under normal circumstances she wouldnt even be able to scratch Madara's susanoo.

The thing is he was destroying her even before he resorted to exploiting her blood phobia, he even stated that he spared her life.

 

[Joshutsu]

The point is Madara wasnt entirely focused on Tsunade, other were attacking him, under normal circumstances she wouldnt even be able to scratch Madara's susanoo.

The thing is he was destroying her even before he resorted to exploiting her blood phobia, he even stated that he spared her life.

Before that it was pretty even until he got her with the chakra scapel, she was still in that state able to use her body dearrangement technique, a feat she should not have been able to do i nthat state, which was said by he kabuto himself, especially at the speed she did it. After that he got the hang of his new body movements and they started fighting again and he cut himself, she went down.

That is all the fight was, stop exaggerating it and making it sound like he was destroying tsunade and left her half dead or something saying he stated he 'spared her life'.

It's easy to hurt someone who isn't fighting back, remember that.

 

[Percy Jackson]

Compare to the beast like her grandfather or her grand uncle she is nothing..
The 2 guys are too strong even for the senjus.. Because madara could kill adult average senju ninja..
But to anyone else she's still use full..

 

[Obito3631]

Before that it was pretty even until he got her with the chakra scapel, she was still in that state able to use her body dearrangement technique, a feat she should not have been able to do i nthat state, which was said by he kabuto himself, especially at the speed she did it. After that he got the hang of his new body movements and they started fighting again and he cut himself, she went down.

That is all the fight was, stop exaggerating it and making it sound like he was destroying tsunade and left her half dead or something saying he stated he 'spared her life'.

It's easy to hurt someone who isn't fighting back, remember that.

I guess you missed the part when he says that he won't aim for her neck because he doesn't want to kill her

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If Kabuto was serious she would have lost right there, so yes she got destroyed by a jonin level ninja.

Totally not weak.

 

[Joshutsu]

I guess you missed the part when he says that he won't aim for her neck because he doesn't want to kill her

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If Kabuto was serious she would have lost right there, so yes she got destroyed by a jonin level ninja.

Totally not weak.

I never said he didn't say he was sparing her life, but i said you are making everything previous to that seem alot more intense than it was, even if he ruptured anything internally life threatening, creation rebirth. Fact. She probably wouldn't even have to go to such extremes being the great medical ninja she is.

 

[Obito3631]

I never said he didn't say he was sparing her life, but i said you are making everything previous to that seem alot more intense than it was, even if he ruptured anything internally life threatening, creation rebirth. Fact. She probably wouldn't even have to go to such extremes being the great medical ninja she is.

you didn't? Let me quote one of your post

That is all the fight was, stop exaggerating it and making it sound like he was destroying tsunade and left her half dead or something saying he stated he 'spared her life'.

and you 've been proven wrong

If he aimed for her neck she wouldn't have been able to use creation rebirth since she would be dead. Sorry.

 

[RikudouMadara]

and that is proving...what exactly? madara can destroy anyone except prime kabuto

Ive been following these posts, and A LOT of what you say seems so dubious. Im trying to figure out if you're saying things as to be serious, or are you saying them just to spite those who are saying she's weak? Ive got nothing against Tsunade, but she is weak as an overall ninja, but corporeally she's very strong. Im not trying to disrespect you...its just you say shes stronger than Tobirama...I believe this is said in jest? Idk, but as far as Hokages go she is indubitably the weakest.

 

[Joshutsu]

you didn't? Let me quote one of your post



and you 've been proven wrong

If he aimed for her neck she wouldn't have been able to use creation rebirth since she would be dead. Sorry.

That was a scenario, the whole sentence you quoted to 'prove me wrong' was a SCENARIO as i said 'stop making it sound like' which would imply you are making it sound like he was trashing her about and then on the verge of death for her stating 'i sparred your life.'

It was obvious i wasnt stating facts as every other part of the sentence was just a counteract to your hyping of the fight you seemed to be foggy on. None of that statement was a fact i pulled from the manga.

This thread is just about done, ive stated all my points and you have been circulating one point on kabuto for the past however much threads. Anything you may respond with reguarding kabuto re-read some other of my replies, i'm tired of repeatign myself.

If she could survive being in half, i doubt she wouldn't have time to activate a jutsu or heal the wound kabuto would have inflicted on her that would be fatal, it isn't like it was a instant death it was just stated to be fatal, and e didnt know of her technique either so you can't say it wouldn't work.

If you have any other point reguarding her in other situations, i shall respond tonight or tomorrow because i have to be going soon.

 

[Obito3631]

That was a scenario, the whole sentence you quoted to 'prove me wrong' was a SCENARIO as i said 'stop making it sound like' which would imply you are making it sound like he was trashing her about and then on the verge of death for her stating 'i sparred your life.'

It was obvious i wasnt stating facts as every other part of the sentence was just a counteract to your hyping of the fight you seemed to be foggy on. None of that statement was a fact i pulled from the manga.

This thread is just about done, ive stated all my points and you have been circulating one point on kabuto for the past however much threads. Anything you may respond with reguarding kabuto re-read some other of my replies, i'm tired of repeatign myself.

If she could survive being in half, i doubt she wouldn't have time to activate a jutsu or heal the wound kabuto would have inflicted on her that would be fatal, it isn't like it was a instant death it was just stated to be fatal, and e didnt know of her technique either so you can't say it wouldn't work.

If you have any other point reguarding her in other situations, i shall respond tonight or tomorrow because i have to be going soon.

It seems to me you can't accept the fact that she's weaker than part 1 Kabuto, he's a medical nin himself he knows very well that she's the best medic out there, he wouldn't have said that if he knew it couldn't kill her.

So all in all, he beat her in taijutsu wiith his chakra scalpels even spared her life once then exploited her weakness which is totally fair, and left her half dead on the ground, he could have killed her many times in that fight but didn't, he's simply stronger than her whether you like it or not.

 

[Rainbow Dash]

Even in Road to Ninja, she got her ass kicked.

 

[Joshutsu]

It seems to me you can't accept the fact that she's weaker than part 1 Kabuto, he's a medical nin himself he knows very well that she's the best medic out there, he wouldn't have said that if he knew it couldn't kill her.

So all in all, he beat her in taijutsu wiith his chakra scalpels even spared her life once then exploited her weakness which is totally fair, and left her half dead on the ground, he could have killed her many times in that fight but didn't, he's simply stronger than her whether you like it or not.

1. Kabuto part 1 is weaker than her, exploiting her weakness was fair but it is the only reason he got the advantage, brain power more than strength.

2. He knew she was the best medic, did he know of her medical capabilities overall? No, so him stating that touching her in that area would be fatal is not confirming it would be, him being unlearned of her creation rebirth and all.

3. He didn't beat her in taijutsu, he was just smart, and excercised some knowledge of physics being to strike her important spots while airbourne, so she would be slowed down so he could handle her a bit better.

4. He did not leave her half dead on the ground, paralyzed by fear of blood, yes. But she was in quite healthy condition after one simple healing.

I'm not a person to disregard proper facts if someone brings them to the table, but i dislike people who will disregard every point i make. I generally do not carry on conversations with them especially when they end of with 'deal with it' or 'like it or not' I know it isn't worth my time anymore.

 

[RikudouMadara]

Even in Road to Ninja, she got her ass kicked.

In RTN? When was this? Im genuinely asking not trying to be comical... or do you mean in Blood Prison?

 

[Obito3631]

1. Kabuto part 1 is weaker than her, exploiting her weakness was fair but it is the only reason he got the advantage, brain power more than strength.

2. He knew she was the best medic, did he know of her medical capabilities overall? No, so him stating that touching her in that area would be fatal is not confirming it would be, him being unlearned of her creation rebirth and all.

3. He didn't beat her in taijutsu, he was just smart, and excercised some knowledge of physics being to strike her important spots while airbourne, so she would be slowed down so he could handle her a bit better.

4. He did not leave her half dead on the ground, paralyzed by fear of blood, yes. But she was in quite healthy condition after one simple healing.

I'm not a person to disregard proper facts if someone brings them to the table, but i dislike people who will disregard every point i make. I generally do not carry on conversations with them especially when they end of with 'deal with it' or 'like it or not' I know it isn't worth my time anymore.

1. How can he be weaker than her if he beat her? You make no sense whatsoever.

2. If he said it would have killed her then it is true, he could have also aimed for her hands so she wouldn't be able to make seals anymore.

3. He didn't beat her in taijutsu? I assume you didn't read the manga, he outsmarted her and beat her in taijutsu, she was simply no match for him.

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4. He cut her muscles all over her bodies, stabbed her then punched her in the face, even if she could heal herself doesnt change the fact that she was half dead.

 

[Joshutsu]

In RTN? When was this? Im genuinely asking not trying to be comical... or do you mean in Blood Prison?

She didn't even fight in blood prison so it couldn't be that, idk what hes talkign about with RTN either but meh

 

[monsoonfox]

She is strong.Even Madara said that she is not that much weak.

 

[Joshutsu]

1. How can he be weaker than her if he beat her? You make no sense whatsoever.

2. If he said it would have killed her then it is true, he could have also aimed for her hands so she wouldn't be able to make seals anymore.

3. He didn't beat her in taijutsu? I assume you didn't read the manga, he outsmarted her and beat her in taijutsu, she was simply no match for him.

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4. He cut her muscles all over her bodies, stabbed her then punched her in the face, even if she could heal herself doesnt change the fact that she was half dead.

You obviously don't seem to know what half dead means.

Outsmarting someone doesn't mean you are stronger than them, its like using a gun against someone who would know could beat you badly.

He beat her taijutsu, but not with taijutsu, which is what i am stating chakara scapel is not taijutsu. If he could match her taijutsu with his he would not have to cut her muscles to slow her down. Thus not beating her with taijutsu, but a counter to it.

He said it could kill her WITHOUT knowledge of her incredible healing techniques anythign he damanged would have been healed, are you understanding a thing i am saying? he didnt know she had posession of such a technique until she got jacked up by orochimaru.

Kabuto not knowing about that jutsu when saying that doesn't mean he was wrong saying it would be fatal to her? Think about it, please.

example, a snake bite fro ma venomous snake is fatal, UNLESS you have the antidote. Understand now?

compared to the state oro had her in to what kabuto had her in, it's clear what half dead really is, even then in the state oro had her i hardly call that half dead and she could still move and had enough chakra to fight still.

See ya whenever, you are not gonna give this up. I can't do anything or say anything more than would convince you otherwise, case in point part 1/2 Tsunade > big gap from part 1 kabuto.

Though part 2 kabuto has surpassed many people anyways. Only expected for stealing a bit of awesome from all the pro people. Bye, i can't continue this with you, i think i have kept an open mind to your arguements, if i didn't have an answer i would have left it alone. Just as i did with accepted she is the weakest hokage and other facts about her.

 

[RikudouMadara]

She didn't even fight in blood prison so it couldn't be that, idk what hes talkign about with RTN either but meh

She fights in Blood Prison...after Naruto goes Sage mode you see her with dirt on her face which implies she was fighting. Even in Narutos "flashback like moment" it shows everyone fighting including Tsunade. Although she is shown only in a fighting stance. They don't actually "show" her fighting, but the dirt on her face shows she joined in the fight. I just checked it, not trying to be rude or anything Im just saying. She doesn't get beaten up though thats why I was asking him where that happened.

 

[Obito3631]

You obviously don't seem to know what half dead means.

Outsmarting someone doesn't mean you are stronger than them, its like using a gun against someone who would know could beat you badly.

He beat her taijutsu, but not with taijutsu, which is what i am stating chakara scapel is not taijutsu. If he could match her taijutsu with his he would not have to cut her muscles to slow her down. Thus not beating her with taijutsu, but a counter to it.

He said it could kill her WITHOUT knowledge of her incredible healing techniques anythign he damanged would have been healed, are you understanding a thing i am saying? he didnt know she had posession of such a technique until she got jacked up by orochimaru.

Kabuto not knowing about that jutsu when saying that doesn't mean he was wrong saying it would be fatal to her? Think about it, please.

example, a snake bite fro ma venomous snake is fatal, UNLESS you have the antidote. Understand now?

compared to the state oro had her in to what kabuto had her in, it's clear what half dead really is, even then in the state oro had her i hardly call that half dead and she could still move and had enough chakra to fight still.

See ya whenever, you are not gonna give this up. I can't do anything or say anything more than would convince you otherwise, case in point part 2 Tsunade >>> wayyyy bigger gap from part 1 kabuto.

Though part 2 kabuto has surpassed many people anyways. Only expected for stealing a bit of awesome from all the pro people. Bye, i can't continue this with you, i think i have kept an open mind to your arguements, if i didn't have an answer i would have left it alone. Just as i did with accepted she is the weakest hokage and other facts about her.

Yawn, well this is getting boring.

If you beat someone fair and square then it means you're stronger, not very hard to understand.

as a matter of fact he did beat her fair and square, theres nothing to argue about, hes stronger period, just accept it.

 

[Joshutsu]

She fights in Blood Prison...after Naruto goes Sage mode you see her with dirt on her face which implies she was fighting. Even in Narutos flashback moment it shows everyone fighting including Tsunade. Although she is shown only in a fighting stance. They don't actually "show" her fighting, but the dirt on her face shows she joined in the fight. I just checked it, not trying to be rude or anything Im just saying. She doesn't get beaten up though thats why I was asking him where that happened.

That is quite alright, theres nothing wrong with questioning Thanks for sharing by the way you are right about the flash back implying she was fighting

 

[Joshutsu]

Yawn, well this is getting boring.

If you beat someone fair and square then it means you're stronger, not very hard to understand.

as a matter of fact he did beat her fair and square, theres nothing to argue about, hes stronger period, just accept it.

Ok. Responding to one key point now, i see i got most of my point across then

Thanks for participating in the thread everyone!