Kisame Vs the 5 Kage (Individually)

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Kisame gets owned in this one

by which kages lol. It's 1v1 each kage. not all at a time. Or you're saying he loses to all?

 

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-Dude,be specific,the jutsu you are reffering to,is giant sand burial.
Sand coffin traps and suffocates,sand burial crushes on land,those are his signatures. Whereas giant sand burial buries the person and sends several shockwaves that crush the person.

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"distinguish ellipse Ellipsis (plural ellipses; from Greek 'omission') in printing and writing refers to a mark or series of marks that usually indicate an intentional omission of a word or a phrase from the original text. An ellipsis can also be used toindicate a pause in speech, an unfinished thought or, at the end of a sentence, a trailing off into silence ( aposiopesis ).
The most common form for an ellipsis consists of a row of three full stops (..., . . . or [...]). Forms encountered less often are three asterisks (***), or one (—) or more (––) dashes.
The triple-dot punctuation mark is also called a suspension point, points of ellipsis, periods of ellipsis, or colloquially, dot-dot-dot.

-"In writing The use of ellipses can either mislead or clarify, and the reader must rely on the good intentions of the writer who uses it. An example of this ambiguity is ‘She went to… school.’ In this sentence, ‘…’ might represent the word ‘elementary’, or the word ‘no’."

-you can clearly see from the above example they gave,how the elipse used to represent ommision works,in the sentence that gaara made,there was no ommision of any word,if it acted as an ommision,then"with chakra" wouldnt be there since it would be ommited. As bolded,dot-dot-dot is used most oftently for a suspension,no word was ommited from gaara's sentence. Also as i asked you,when gaara asked kimi of his kkg,was it not the same way the first one was written?,was there any ommision?,or was it a pause?,it was definately a pause,not an ommission.

-so you apperently ignored factual information,based on the fact that you doubt gaara's ability?.
Deidara told him he was going to wipe out the village

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you can see gaara's face here as well

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so yes,he knew exactly what that bomb was about to do,and what do you think he mus have been doing before it reached the village?,ofcourse,he was prepping the sand needed,which resulted in him needing to block the explosion in a split second due to the time needed to gather that much sand that is rich in minerals and also flowing chakra through it which you also ignored. It dosent matter whether the minerals are on the surface or below,he was able to gather and collect the best mineral rich sand,flow it with chakra before the bomb reached,and them moved it to block it at the split second it exploded.

-I dont know what that scan of yours abt the sand tsunami proved,all i saw was a 13 year old doing some handseals and all of a sudden, a tidal wave of sand erupts,gaara didnt in any way pant,or suffer any side backs after that. It was after his Shukaku shield,which he had to go underground to gather the strongest minerals,pressurize them with chakra into dense sand,in order to form his strongest defence,then the prison burial where he sent kimi 200m below the ground,do you know the distance that covers?,thats a third of an average mountain length,then he showed signs of exhaustion.

-The same with deidara,he used tidal waves of sand from the ground,brought them above,and constantly attacked deidara,he was unfazed by the amount of sand he used,until he used his sky shield,where as i bolded,is made from the best mineral rich sand he could find,as well as his chakra flowing through the thing,after blocking the c3,gaara began to pant. What about against the edo kages?,did he seem even fazed by the wave?

-- the fourth kazekage does not make gold dust,he converts his chakra to magnetic forces,in other words,he turns himself into a giant magnet with a magnetic field that attracts the gold dust or any magnetic material he wants to attract,he uses jiton to attract the gold dust,he dosent fuse chakra into the ground,he turns his own chakra into a magnetic field. The only time he may infuse the ground with his chakra,is if he wants to enact a magnetic field around the ground,however,that is used for another purpose altogether.

-A didnt punch him,he brought his hand down,similar to his drop kick on sasuke,it had no real speed to it,rather it just packed force.

He made a shield here

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,you can see the distance from his chest

A's hand goes through the shield and into his chest

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this is the hole in his chest despite a cs2 shield

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,whether juugo functioned or not dosent matter,he was in cs2,naruto said if he took a single punch from v1,he'd be done for,
If A knew that kisame cud suck up his raiton armour,how else cud he get around him without v2?. Against minato,he went v2.

No, i'm referring to Sand Burial. You being such a big Gaara fan should understand the difference between

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It is Sand burial that Gaara sends them 200m meters into the ground

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not at all on the surface. You said that Gaara used sand burial to rip of Deidaras arm when it was Sand Coffin. There is a clear difference.

As I said, it really doesn't matter whether it was a omission or suspension, because it doesn't make sense to say either one of them doesn't require chakra. Unless you'd like to explain to me how Gaara mysteriously accomplishes collecting minerals in the ground manually?

Silly me. I should have known Deidara explained his jutsu to Gaara as it seems everybody does.
Are you forgetting my original point, that Gaara needs to be in contact with the ground to gather and make sand out of the unsurfaced minerals? He used the sand on the surface of Sunagakure to create that giant shield. Of course you're going to say, that no way the richest minerals are found on the surface, which you and I have no proof to prove or disprove. Also, i'm pretty sure you got that whole "gathered the richest minerals" from the wiki, I would like to see databook or manga evidence of this. But anyways, he hasn't used any type of sand burial in part 2, and coincidentally he has been airborne nearly the whole time, which leads me to believe he must be on the ground in order to fuse his chakra with the floor since the mechanics of jutsu is burying an opponent deep into the ground. The same principle should apply to collecting and grinding unsurfaced minerals to create sand.

Lol are you serious. A's punch never went through the shield and punches a whole near his chest. The force from his punch pushed back Jugos shield into his chest, and indented both of them. Hence why there is no clear whole in neither his shield or chest. If what you said is to be true, then Ay's fist alone is thicker then Jugos, shield, arm, and chest. Which it isn't, as you can see in that first scan you provided, only his fist is unseen, his whole arm is completely visible. His fist alone didn't penetrate through Jugos whole body. Therefore, that is still a tank-able hit for Kisame.

It only takes one hand seal for Kisame to dispel his lake or water dome. A isn't turning on his raiton armor then blitzing Kisame for half a football field before Kisame accomplishes a single hand seal. If A blitzes, he's blitzing straight into a water dome where he can't get out. If Kisame chooses to dispel a lake, rather then water dome, he can water clone spam, use 1,000 sharks, etc. A's lightning is absorbed by Samehada.

 

[Guildmage]

According to Kisame himself, Roshi was a tough fight for him.
Samehada would not withstand the heat of Lava release, Kisame defeated Roshi not by absorbing techniques or taijutsu, but most likely with Suiton, and since I guess Roshi was not an expert swimmer or water manipulator. That was his flaw.

But Mei is another case, she has Lava release, which Kisame has to be careful, same as he was with Roshi, but in difference to Roshi, Mei is a water manipulator and also and earth style user (lava= earth+fire).... in my books earth is supposed to defeat water. Mei stands good chances agaisn't Kisame.

Oonoki is the other one that would most likely defeat Kisame.

A, Tsunade don't stand a chance, their close combat attacks will also help kisame wipe out their chakra via. Samehada, the same way KB vs Kisame went like.

Gaara would be a titanic battle of earth vs water. I go with Gaara.

 

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Kisame looses to all the five kages.....

 

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No, i'm referring to Sand Burial. You being such a big Gaara fan should understand the difference between

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It is Sand burial that Gaara sends them 200m meters into the ground

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not at all on the surface. You said that Gaara used sand burial to rip of Deidaras arm when it was Sand Coffin. There is a clear difference.

As I said, it really doesn't matter whether it was a omission or suspension, because it doesn't make sense to say either one of them doesn't require chakra. Unless you'd like to explain to me how Gaara mysteriously accomplishes collecting minerals in the ground manually?

Silly me. I should have known Deidara explained his jutsu to Gaara as it seems everybody does.
Are you forgetting my original point, that Gaara needs to be in contact with the ground to gather and make sand out of the unsurfaced minerals? He used the sand on the surface of Sunagakure to create that giant shield. Of course you're going to say, that no way the richest minerals are found on the surface, which you and I have no proof to prove or disprove. Also, i'm pretty sure you got that whole "gathered the richest minerals" from the wiki, I would like to see databook or manga evidence of this. But anyways, he hasn't used any type of sand burial in part 2, and coincidentally he has been airborne nearly the whole time, which leads me to believe he must be on the ground in order to fuse his chakra with the floor since the mechanics of jutsu is burying an opponent deep into the ground. The same principle should apply to collecting and grinding unsurfaced minerals to create sand.

Lol are you serious. A's punch never went through the shield and punches a whole near his chest. The force from his punch pushed back Jugos shield into his chest, and indented both of them. Hence why there is no clear whole in neither his shield or chest. If what you said is to be true, then Ay's fist alone is thicker then Jugos, shield, arm, and chest. Which it isn't, as you can see in that first scan you provided, only his fist is unseen, his whole arm is completely visible. His fist alone didn't penetrate through Jugos whole body. Therefore, that is still a tank-able hit for Kisame.

It only takes one hand seal for Kisame to dispel his lake or water dome. A isn't turning on his raiton armor then blitzing Kisame for half a football field before Kisame accomplishes a single hand seal. If A blitzes, he's blitzing straight into a water dome where he can't get out. If Kisame chooses to dispel a lake, rather then water dome, he can water clone spam, use 1,000 sharks, etc. A's lightning is absorbed by Samehada.

you really shouldnt argue with things you dont understand,
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Making sand takes no effort

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if he were forced to d
the triple dots signified a suspension as proven,and not an ommision of anything,making sand takes no effort,using it to attack,defend and compressing it take effort and even that is minimal to current gaara.

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it's common knowledge he collects the minerals he needs from underground,which is where they are formed,so no,he didnt getany mineral rich sand from the surface,and the sand he used was from the surrounding desert,not from suna. Also 3rd databook page 248 IIRC says something about it. Also it said he flowed chakra through the sand shield,which nullifies your argument abt needing to touch it.

What the heck are you talking abt?,A's hand clearly went through the shield,his entire fist is invicible,meaning it went inside,there was a hole in juugo's chest as well as the shield,a dent?,seriously?.A thought he kille him,which means his hand must have really gone down,like i said,juugo's shield was what stopped A's hand from ripping right through. A's raiton armour provides extra penetration,which allowed him to punch a hole un juugo's chest. Juugo surviving dosent mean kisame will survive. Juugo took a direct elbow to the neck,and got knocked out,naruto said a simple punch would kil him in km mode,kisame cant tank hits greater than km naruto can.if kisame got hit with that elbow,his neck would have snapped.

Like i said,if A has intel on kisame and his sword,he isnt starting in v1,cuz hje knows he would loose,just like he didnt start in v1 against minato,cuz he knew minato would win, if he could attavk minato to the point that his fist was at minato's face before minato even moved,kisame's dead

 

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you really shouldnt argue with things you dont understand,
sand coffin

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Making sand takes no effort

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if he were forced to d
the triple dots signified a suspension as proven,and not an ommision of anything,making sand takes no effort,using it to attack,defend and compressing it take effort and even that is minimal to current gaara.

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it's common knowledge he collects the minerals he needs from underground,which is where they are formed,so no,he didnt getany mineral rich sand from the surface,and the sand he used was from the surrounding desert,not from suna. Also 3rd databook page 248 IIRC says something about it. Also it said he flowed chakra through the sand shield,which nullifies your argument abt needing to touch it.

What the heck are you talking abt?,A's hand clearly went through the shield,his entire fist is invicible,meaning it went inside,there was a hole in juugo's chest as well as the shield,a dent?,seriously?.A thought he kille him,which means his hand must have really gone down,like i said,juugo's shield was what stopped A's hand from ripping right through. A's raiton armour provides extra penetration,which allowed him to punch a hole un juugo's chest. Juugo surviving dosent mean kisame will survive. Juugo took a direct elbow to the neck,and got knocked out,naruto said a simple punch would kil him in km mode,kisame cant tank hits greater than km naruto can.if kisame got hit with that elbow,his neck would have snapped.

Like i said,if A has intel on kisame and his sword,he isnt starting in v1,cuz hje knows he would loose,just like he didnt start in v1 against minato,cuz he knew minato would win, if he could attavk minato to the point that his fist was at minato's face before minato even moved,kisame's dead

Can't believe you're still arguing about A...

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That's a lightning enhanced pencil in the top left panel. It was able to penetrate a tree, then the ground. Kisame even said it had more penetration than fuuton. That's more penetration than even asuma did.

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There are two LIGHTNING ENHANCED blades in that picture(so we already know that raiton gives A zero advantage). One tossed at kisame's head, and one in bee's hand.

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You can see that the lightning enhanced blade in bee's hand was sucked dry of it's chakra, then Bee got a V1 4 tailed cloak sucked dry (There are two previous pages showing this but this is FAR more chakra than A even has; especially as his V2 armor). Bottom right panel is that thrown blade from early. A pencil busted up a tree early. This is the same thing, but with a far harder and sharper object - a sword - but it couldn't pentrate 2 inches into kisame. Now, we're being shown why it didn't even penetrate. Notice in the bottom center panel that the blade(moving at high speed) had it's chakra sucked from just passing near samehade. By the time it's finished passing( bottom left) it's already drained of it's lightning chakra. This is basically exactly what's going on with A's raiton armor. And this is exactly what will happen to it.


Kisame doesn't need to see A. Kisame doesn't need to react to A. Kisame only needs to hold samehade near him and A's V2 punch is reduced down to a normal punch. A isn't causing any damage with that and even if he does, samehade would pass all that sucked chakra to kisame to heal him. So guess what? A has just lost all of his chakra. Bee had to constantly tap into hachibi's reserves because all his chakra was drained everytime a cloak was sucked. Eventually bee was ran dry. Stop arguing about Ay. A loses miserably easy. But do go on with your gaara fight.

 

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you really shouldnt argue with things you dont understand,
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Making sand takes no effort

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if he were forced to d
the triple dots signified a suspension as proven,and not an ommision of anything,making sand takes no effort,using it to attack,defend and compressing it take effort and even that is minimal to current gaara.

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it's common knowledge he collects the minerals he needs from underground,which is where they are formed,so no,he didnt getany mineral rich sand from the surface,and the sand he used was from the surrounding desert,not from suna. Also 3rd databook page 248 IIRC says something about it. Also it said he flowed chakra through the sand shield,which nullifies your argument abt needing to touch it.

What the heck are you talking abt?,A's hand clearly went through the shield,his entire fist is invicible,meaning it went inside,there was a hole in juugo's chest as well as the shield,a dent?,seriously?.A thought he kille him,which means his hand must have really gone down,like i said,juugo's shield was what stopped A's hand from ripping right through. A's raiton armour provides extra penetration,which allowed him to punch a hole un juugo's chest. Juugo surviving dosent mean kisame will survive. Juugo took a direct elbow to the neck,and got knocked out,naruto said a simple punch would kil him in km mode,kisame cant tank hits greater than km naruto can.if kisame got hit with that elbow,his neck would have snapped.

Like i said,if A has intel on kisame and his sword,he isnt starting in v1,cuz hje knows he would loose,just like he didnt start in v1 against minato,cuz he knew minato would win, if he could attavk minato to the point that his fist was at minato's face before minato even moved,kisame's dead

Okay, that is Desert Graveyard or

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. I was referring to Prison Sand Burial, guess I really should have been specific then. I didn't think there would be such a misunderstanding between me not including Prison in the sand burial and you thinking I was referring to Desert Graveyard. The point was, according to the manga Gaara used

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not Desert Graveyard. If they were the same thing as you described, then there is no need for the 2 different names.

Once again, if finding minerals within the ground doesn't require chakra, enlighten me how Gaara goes about collecting it.

I'ts common knowledge, in that specific fight against Kimmimaro he collected the minerals from underground because he only had access to amount in his guard. Not his fight with Deidara, when he was surrounded by an unlimited amount. He needs to touch his sand in order to flow chakra throw it? I said this? Where? I'm not doubting his ability to freely control sand that is already on the surface, as obviously he has done it numerous times, and with a large amount. I'm specifically saying, for the 10th and last time: He needs to be on the ground to flow chakra into it, in order to first, find the minerals, then pressurizing them into sand. Him flowing chakra within sand that is visibly on the surface has nothing to do with what i'm saying.

Take a look at both those scans again. His fist, is the only thing that penetrated Jugo's shield. Do you see how far away Jugos shield is away from his chest at the moment of impact? It's arms length away. A's fist, did not go completely threw his shield and into his chest. That would require for A's entire arm to pierce threw the shield and hit his chest, which wasn't the case when his entire arm is fully visible the whole time. That means the force from A's punch, pushed Jugos arm and shield into his chest.

I'll repeat once more. A's punch did not pierce threw Jugos shield because that would mean his whole arm would be threw the shield and into Jugos chest. The only part of A that isn't visible is his fist, which isn't long or thick enough to completely punch a whole threw both his shield and chest. Because of A's lack of strength, Jugos durability stopped A's punch fist deep not arms deep.

And then theirs this, which you didn't address.
It only takes one hand seal for Kisame to dispel his lake or water dome. A isn't turning on his raiton armor then blitzing Kisame for half a football field before Kisame accomplishes a single hand seal. If A blitzes, he's blitzing straight into a water dome where he can't get out. If Kisame chooses to dispel a lake, rather then water dome, he can water clone spam, use 1,000 sharks, etc. A's lightning is absorbed by Samehada.

 

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He would defeat all of them
Mei- she only uses Ninjutsu..not good when fighting Kisame he absorbs it. If injuried he'll heal

Tsunade-CQC fighter with average speed, He'll drown her and suck with 100s of shark. also absorb her chakra

Onooki- GSB>Jinton Kisame can counter everything he has. It's logical to think Samehada could absorb Jinton before it's executed as well.

Ay- lightning would continue to get absorbed and he'll heall. fusion Kisame in waterdome wins it.

Gaara- GSB or waterdome + fusion or explosive water shock wave +1000 shark wins.

Fighting up close is not good they would get their chakra absorbed for Ay and Tsuande. Fight a long with chakra base attack or not good GSB finishs them Onooki and Mei. Super Massive bodies of water with sharks beat large body of sand for Gaara.

 

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Okay, that is Desert Graveyard or

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. I was referring to Prison Sand Burial, guess I really should have been specific then. I didn't think there would be such a misunderstanding between me not including Prison in the sand burial and you thinking I was referring to Desert Graveyard. The point was, according to the manga Gaara used

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not Desert Graveyard. If they were the same thing as you described, then there is no need for the 2 different names.

Once again, if finding minerals within the ground doesn't require chakra, enlighten me how Gaara goes about collecting it.

I'ts common knowledge, in that specific fight against Kimmimaro he collected the minerals from underground because he only had access to amount in his guard. Not his fight with Deidara, when he was surrounded by an unlimited amount. He needs to touch his sand in order to flow chakra throw it? I said this? Where? I'm not doubting his ability to freely control sand that is already on the surface, as obviously he has done it numerous times, and with a large amount. I'm specifically saying, for the 10th and last time: He needs to be on the ground to flow chakra into it, in order to first, find the minerals, then pressurizing them into sand. Him flowing chakra within sand that is visibly on the surface has nothing to do with what i'm saying.

Take a look at both those scans again. His fist, is the only thing that penetrated Jugo's shield. Do you see how far away Jugos shield is away from his chest at the moment of impact? It's arms length away. A's fist, did not go completely threw his shield and into his chest. That would require for A's entire arm to pierce threw the shield and hit his chest, which wasn't the case when his entire arm is fully visible the whole time. That means the force from A's punch, pushed Jugos arm and shield into his chest.

I'll repeat once more. A's punch did not pierce threw Jugos shield because that would mean his whole arm would be threw the shield and into Jugos chest. The only part of A that isn't visible is his fist, which isn't long or thick enough to completely punch a whole threw both his shield and chest. Because of A's lack of strength, Jugos durability stopped A's punch fist deep not arms deep.

And then theirs this, which you didn't address.
It only takes one hand seal for Kisame to dispel his lake or water dome. A isn't turning on his raiton armor then blitzing Kisame for half a football field before Kisame accomplishes a single hand seal. If A blitzes, he's blitzing straight into a water dome where he can't get out. If Kisame chooses to dispel a lake, rather then water dome, he can water clone spam, use 1,000 sharks, etc. A's lightning is absorbed by Samehada.

desert graveyard IS also known as sand burial,just like how sand tsunami is also known as quicksand waterflow,it's what he calls them in the englisg version of the anime,which we usually take up

just because gaara used sand coffin,dosent mean he cant use a normal sand burial,and i showed you manga scans of both a sand coffin and sand burial,so if he decided to join both jutsus into one,it's his decision.

Already showed you manga scans of gaara himself saying it takes nothing to make more sand. He went underground in order to find the strongest minerals to make his SOS,he dosent need to go that low to make sand,he just does it on the surface,where there are loose soils,rock etc,and makes sand from there going down,he can as well make sand from the minnerals. All he needs is little already present sand from the gourd or from the environment to crush the minerals as well as the loose soils and rock below the surface. He dosent flow chakra through the ground to make it at all.
A punched juugo's shield towards his chest,then his arms pierced the shield and a little into juugo's chest,if A didnt punch through the shield,where was his invincible fist?. Dont know what you're arguing abt,but you can clearly see a hole in juugo's chest and his shield,the damage done by the punch,what made that hole in his chest?. I have said it before,the only reason juugo's heart wasnt hit,was cuz the shield managed to halt A's punch,without it,juugo would have died. Even if kisame intercepts the v1 punch,he stll takes the damage,and as we saw,A follows his opponent to the wall,meaning A would still be right next to him,with a hand in his chest,oh and his sword wont be by his side,it would get knocked out of his hand by the push back force of the blow,just like bee's hit,A can just reactivate his raiton armour and take his heart,assuming he didnt crush his heart already.

Minato didnt move an inch when A attacked,an ms user cudnt keep up,how is kisame reacting to a v2 hit?,he wont eve see him until it's too late.

 

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He wins because

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. The only person I see him having difficulty is Onoki.

 

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desert graveyard IS also known as sand burial,just like how sand tsunami is also known as quicksand waterflow,it's what he calls them in the englisg version of the anime,which we usually take up

just because gaara used sand coffin,dosent mean he cant use a normal sand burial,and i showed you manga scans of both a sand coffin and sand burial,so if he decided to join both jutsus into one,it's his decision.

Already showed you manga scans of gaara himself saying it takes nothing to make more sand. He went underground in order to find the strongest minerals to make his SOS,he dosent need to go that low to make sand,he just does it on the surface,where there are loose soils,rock etc,and makes sand from there going down,he can as well make sand from the minnerals. All he needs is little already present sand from the gourd or from the environment to crush the minerals as well as the loose soils and rock below the surface. He dosent flow chakra through the ground to make it at all.
A punched juugo's shield towards his chest,then his arms pierced the shield and a little into juugo's chest,if A didnt punch through the shield,where was his invincible fist?. Dont know what you're arguing abt,but you can clearly see a hole in juugo's chest and his shield,the damage done by the punch,what made that hole in his chest?. I have said it before,the only reason juugo's heart wasnt hit,was cuz the shield managed to halt A's punch,without it,juugo would have died. Even if kisame intercepts the v1 punch,he stll takes the damage,and as we saw,A follows his opponent to the wall,meaning A would still be right next to him,with a hand in his chest,oh and his sword wont be by his side,it would get knocked out of his hand by the push back force of the blow,just like bee's hit,A can just reactivate his raiton armour and take his heart,assuming he didnt crush his heart already.

Minato didnt move an inch when A attacked,an ms user cudnt keep up,how is kisame reacting to a v2 hit?,he wont eve see him until it's too late.

Did you just say he physically went underground to make his SOS?
The manga specifically says, he gets the minerals from underground, despite how deep they are, they are not visible from the surface. It also specifically says in the manga that he pressurizes them using his chakra, prior to them being surfaced, so actually he does flow chakra into the ground.

Actually the only reason A's fist penetrated Jugo is because they ran into a wall, which supported A's punch by not allowing Jugo to fall back. Punches don't pierce, only sharp objects pierce such as the 3rd Raikages hell stab. The wall allowed A's punch to penetrate Jugo farther then it normally would, in which it was not even a clear hole that you keep on describing it to be. So if Kisame were to get punched from A,

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would happen. A's punch never penetrated Muu nor Madara. And if Kisame let's go of Samehada like he did when he got hit from Bee, no big deal. Samehada being a living entity can distinguish when Kisame is in trouble and can freely go right back to him

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And this still remains.
It only takes one hand seal for Kisame to dispel his lake or water dome. A isn't turning on his raiton armor then blitzing Kisame for half a football field before Kisame accomplishes a single hand seal. If A blitzes, he's blitzing straight into a water dome where he can't get out. If Kisame chooses to dispel a lake, rather then water dome, he can water clone spam, use 1,000 sharks, etc. A's lightning is absorbed by Samehada.

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. The only person I see him having difficulty is Onoki.

Precisely! Made a thread no too long ago arguing Kisame being top 10 worthy. He is wayyyyyyy to underestimated on the base, smh.

 

[Strawberry]

kill mei, gaara and tsuande loses to onoki if he gets hit by particle and a rapes him

 

[genii96]

Did you just say he physically went underground to make his SOS?
The manga specifically says, he gets the minerals from underground, despite how deep they are, they are not visible from the surface. It also specifically says in the manga that he pressurizes them using his chakra, prior to them being surfaced, so actually he does flow chakra into the ground.

Actually the only reason A's fist penetrated Jugo is because they ran into a wall, which supported A's punch by not allowing Jugo to fall back. Punches don't pierce, only sharp objects pierce such as the 3rd Raikages hell stab. The wall allowed A's punch to penetrate Jugo farther then it normally would, in which it was not even a clear hole that you keep on describing it to be. So if Kisame were to get punched from A,

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would happen. A's punch never penetrated Muu nor Madara. And if Kisame let's go of Samehada like he did when he got hit from Bee, no big deal. Samehada being a living entity can distinguish when Kisame is in trouble and can freely go right back to him

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And this still remains.
It only takes one hand seal for Kisame to dispel his lake or water dome. A isn't turning on his raiton armor then blitzing Kisame for half a football field before Kisame accomplishes a single hand seal. If A blitzes, he's blitzing straight into a water dome where he can't get out. If Kisame chooses to dispel a lake, rather then water dome, he can water clone spam, use 1,000 sharks, etc. A's lightning is absorbed by Samehada.



Precisely! Made a thread no too long ago arguing Kisame being top 10 worthy. He is wayyyyyyy to underestimated on the base, smh.

how far underground do you think mnerals are?,thats how deep he can go. Yes,he flows chakra through his sky shield while on the air,as well as SOS.

All he needs to do is just stay in the air and make more sand,when he has mabe enough,he brings it up to the surface and the match swings to his favour.

A single punch from A was said t be strng enough to put km naruto out of commision,kisame's skin isnt more durable than a chakra cloak of kurama,he gets killed with a punach,assuming A starts in v1,he punches kisame,kisame loosews his sword,A reactivvates his armour and finishes it.

However,with intel,A will go for v2,where even minato cudnt raise an arm before his fist came to his face,kisame pulling off a handsign is very unlikely

 

[slaton02]

how far underground do you think mnerals are?,thats how deep he can go. Yes,he flows chakra through his sky shield while on the air,as well as SOS.

All he needs to do is just stay in the air and make more sand,when he has mabe enough,he brings it up to the surface and the match swings to his favour.

A single punch from A was said t be strng enough to put km naruto out of commision,kisame's skin isnt more durable than a chakra cloak of kurama,he gets killed with a punach,assuming A starts in v1,he punches kisame,kisame loosews his sword,A reactivvates his armour and finishes it.

However,with intel,A will go for v2,where even minato cudnt raise an arm before his fist came to his face,kisame pulling off a handsign is very unlikely

Kisame out classes Gaara no matter how you look at it. This nothing Gaara can do to stop his attacks

A single punch from Guy was said to kill and blew up susanoo Kisame survived it showing his durablity, and alive and heal from the rip in his torso. Ay's hit isn't killing Kisame. Kisame can also use water prison to isolate himself or his oppent then then pulloff water or water wave. Clone spam as well.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

loses only against Onoki and A

 

[Forbidden Technique]

how far underground do you think mnerals are?,thats how deep he can go. Yes,he flows chakra through his sky shield while on the air,as well as SOS.

All he needs to do is just stay in the air and make more sand,when he has mabe enough,he brings it up to the surface and the match swings to his favour.

A single punch from A was said t be strng enough to put km naruto out of commision,kisame's skin isnt more durable than a chakra cloak of kurama,he gets killed with a punach,assuming A starts in v1,he punches kisame,kisame loosews his sword,A reactivvates his armour and finishes it.

However,with intel,A will go for v2,where even minato cudnt raise an arm before his fist came to his face,kisame pulling off a handsign is very unlikely

Wow, you must of been gone for awhile if you just replied to my last post.

In all honestly, I'm bored of this Gaara debate. I thought I already explained why Gaara controlling sand with chakra doesn't effect Kisame. Plus you're the only one on this thread that thinks he wins.

As far as A goes, there is a difference between what is said and what is shown and you just bluntly ignored the two manga scans I provided in which it shows the damage of which A's punch deals. The manga says a lot of things that aren't necessarily true or 100% accurate.
The exterier of Edo Tensei bodies aren't as durable as real life bodies and A's punch barely even did any damage with direct hits.

Besides, Naruto didn't even say he'd be one shotted by A's punch [

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]. Funny how Naruto blocked it with an arm. In addition, Killer B literally caught and stopped A's punch without too much effort [

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]. A's punch isn't even nearly enough to one shot one of the most durable characters, Kisame; and there is nothing that even suggests it will.

With intel, Kisame would know to keep his distance and not approach him straight on, so the chances of him performing a single hand seal is actually very likely.