Hashirama's Mangekyo Sharingan Theory

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sasuke doesn't have tsukuyomi,he has blaze release instead.
showing a powerful genjutsu doesn't mean that genjutsu is tsukuyomi.
and don't bring the data book in thhis because it was talking about itachi only.
 

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Itachi implanted the amaterasu//if he didn't sasuke would just have susano'o

What Itachi did is transfer his own Amaterasu in Sasuke's eye and rigged it to activate when met with Obito's sharingan. When this happened Sasuke's left eye changed into Itachi's MS. Sasuke had not awakened his own MS yet. I believe that Sasuke'e MS granted him his own Amaterasu.
 

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sasuke doesn't have tsukuyomi,he has blaze release instead.
showing a powerful genjutsu doesn't mean that genjutsu is tsukuyomi.
and don't bring the data book in thhis because it was talking about itachi only.

I believe Sasuke does have Tsukiyomi. I also believe that both Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu are required for Susano. Sasuke just isn't as adept at using Tsukiyomi. Just like Itachi wasn't as good with Amaterasu.
 

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This is my theory on the Mangekyo Sharingan. Enjoy.

Firstly, Manga >>> Databook

Ok, I believe that everyone's eyes are the same from 1 Tomoe up to 3.
After they unlock Mangekyo Sharingan they all get two diffrent powers. One in each eye.
If your brothers or sisters tho, then you get the same powers. This would explain why both Itachi and Sasuke have shown to both have Amaterasu and Tsukyomi. This would also explain why Obito and Shisui have separate powers then them and why they dont have their powers. This would also explain why you have to take your brothers or sisters eyes for Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan.
Now I also believe that no matter what two powers you have, when combined you always get susanoo. This would explain why Madara has Susanoo but hasn't shown Amaterasu or Tsukyomi.

What do you think? I hope you liked it as well.

Bolded is where you went wrong.
Both the databooks and the Manga are the same.

When you unlock Ms you get your own unique Jutsu, Like KA or sauske's enton. It's rare to Get Amaterasu/Tsukuyomi but to get both is Very rare, To have them both and have Susanoo is even rarer.
Not every uchiha that unlocks Ms have Amaterasu or tsukuyomi.

Sasuke has Enton (unique to him), Amaterasu, Tsukuoymi, Susanoo. So it would make sense why Obito/Shisui have their own unique jutsu's also, They just wern't lucky enough for amaterasu/tsukuyomi. Simple really.
 

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Bolded is where you went wrong.
Both the databooks and the Manga are the same.

When you unlock Ms you get your own unique Jutsu, Like KA or sauske's enton. It's rare to Get Amaterasu/Tsukuyomi but to get both is Very rare, To have them both and have Susanoo is even rarer.
Not every uchiha that unlocks Ms have Amaterasu or tsukuyomi.

Sasuke has Enton (unique to him), Amaterasu, Tsukuoymi, Susanoo. So it would make sense why Obito/Shisui have their own unique jutsu's also, They just wern't lucky enough for amaterasu/tsukuyomi. Simple really.

No they are not the same, you must be one of those idiots that think hiruzen>hashirama because of data book

Edit: My theory is also very simple.
 
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Read these links, you'll understand it then

Blazerelease had this all posted in a one of his threads but I'm to lazy to find it for you, so here.





 

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Read these links, you'll understand it then

Blazerelease had this all posted in a one of his threads but I'm to lazy to find it for you, so here.






Wikipedia is made up by people, anyone can change it. Nice try.
 

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If a tree falls over and no one is there to hear it does it still make a sound?

No, because no one would know about it and the sound wouldn't have been proven to be made. I could say it hit a pile of leaves, the leaves made a sound and the tree didnt. You are the troll and your logic fails.
 

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No they are not the same, you must be one of those idiots that think hiruzen>hashirama because of data book

Edit: My theory is also very simple.

So why are the databooks not the same?, Because they go against your own Opinion on things?. Databooks are written by kishi himself, They are no less credible than the actual manga.

Oh before you call people stupid, Both the Databooks and your precious Manga both Hailed Hiruzen as a God and the strongest Hokage.
 
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So why are the databooks not the same?, Because they go against your own Opinion on things?. Databooks are written by kishi himself, They are no less credible than the actual manga.

Oh are befor you call people stupid, Both the Databooks and your precious Manga both Hailed Hiruzen as a God and the strongest Hokage.

ok, i won't be a jerk and call you names, sorry about that, but kishis mind has changed through out the manga, he has made this obvious, but this is untrue with the databooks as they are relatively old now. When he makes a new one and restates everything thats in the old ones and "refreshes" the information, then we will know. As of now they are not the same. Do you see what I am saying?
 
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Its a good thread i just like to troll lol Word of advice if you use your username use your entire username
 

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ok, i won't be a jerk and call you names, sorry about that, but kishis mind has changed through out the manga, he has made this obvious, but this is untrue with the databooks as they are relatively old now. When he makes a new one and restates everything thats in the old ones and "refreshes" the information, then we will know. As of now they are not the same. Do you see what I am saying?

but if there is another data book it will most likely be final
 
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