Which is easier to counter FTG or Kamui?

Jphu8414

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So we all know both of these jutsus are kickass (maybe even a little OP) however, which one is easier to counter (not necessarily the same as asking which one is better)

FTG
Much faster, even showed the ability to warp a tailed beast bomb but can't be used without a jutsu formula. No time limit or anything, doesn't seem to use that much chakra.

Kamui (Obito's version)
Doesn't need jutsu formula but a little bit slower (especially when warping yourself) a five minute time limit. Must remain tangible to use it. People or objects trapped in Kamui are trapped and cannot escape

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Depends on your move set I guess. Some people are better counters to Obito while others might find it far easier to evade FTG markings.
 

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FTG. Unless Obito makes a mistake Kamui can only truly be countered by Kakashi. FTG can be countered without Minato making a mistake.
 

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Ftg is easier to beat unless your a genius like minato or the 2nd hokage.
 

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Kamui is , deidara already countered it. :)
 

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Yeah, I do think Kamui is easier to counter. The time limit is easy to exploit such as the Obito-Konan fight where he was forced to use Izanagi.
I do think however Kamui is slightly the overall better jutsu because of overall versatility (I mean Minato even stated it was better than his and the Tobirama's space time ninjutsu, Kakashi as well)
 

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Neither.
Situation and Person calls for it. Kakashi may find KAmui easier. But naruto may find FTG easier.

They're both hard as hell to counter ESPECIALLY with no knowledge.

AKA not knowing about FTG2
Or not knowing that kamui is what makes obito intangible
 

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FTG is easier, with kamui you need another s/t in order to even touch obito, while FTG on the other hand you can set up a defence such as ama/susanoo/sand/stone around yourself which minato wouldnt be able to penatrate with FTG alone. Obito can slip through anything. minato cant slip through a defense
 

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Yeah, I do think Kamui is easier to counter. The time limit is easy to exploit such as the Obito-Konan fight where he was forced to use Izanagi.
I do think however Kamui is slightly the overall better jutsu because of overall versatility (I mean Minato even stated it was better than his and the Tobirama's space time ninjutsu, Kakashi as well)

Actually what I never got is why Obito tried to remain intangible for his limit instead of just going into his space time dimension and reappearing in another place, like the way he does to travel long distances, for the duration of her jutsu then come back later.... That would've made more sense.
 

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Neither.
Situation and Person calls for it. Kakashi may find KAmui easier. But naruto may find FTG easier.

They're both hard as hell to counter ESPECIALLY with no knowledge.

AKA not knowing about FTG2
Or not knowing that kamui is what makes obito intangible

Good point, I suppose it's mostly relative to the situation and environment of the battle
 

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Actually what I never got is why Obito tried to remain intangible for his limit instead of just going into his space time dimension and reappearing in another place, like the way he does to travel long distances, for the duration of her jutsu then come back later.... That would've made more sense.

Because he had tags on him. If he moved to his dimension, the tags would still be on him as he's warping himself. He'd be blown up in his other dimension. Wherever he would have gone the tags would follow, or at least that's the logic konan gave as to why obito couldn't escape.
apparently he'd suck in everything around him while porting or something...
 

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Actually what I never got is why Obito tried to remain intangible for his limit instead of just going into his space time dimension and reappearing in another place, like the way he does to travel long distances, for the duration of her jutsu then come back later.... That would've made more sense.

Not nearly as badass and intimidating lol
 
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