2nd and maybe 1st should have released themselves from edo tensei.

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Yeah since the 2nd Hokage Tobirama created Edo tensei he should have known the weakness of Edo tensei too yeah like Madara did.


See how Madara released himself from Edo tensei Tobirama should have done the same when he was being controlled by Oro during the fight between him and Sarutobi. What do you think?
 

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Orochimaru had them fully controlled, they could not.
 

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He could have done it be he wasn't able to since orochimaru put them under complete control since he knew it would happen, kabuto wasn't as smart.
 

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This is another example of fan misconceptions being called plot holes. I'm typing in big words for you to understand me better.

Madara was given free reign by Kabuto. Which means Madara had full control of his body from the start since he was against the alliance anyway, so there was no need to restrain him and force his movements.

Orochimaru had the 1st and 2nd in a full binding contract, their personalities were completely removed when Orochimaru placed the tags. And they became mindless puppets who could only attack and defend.
 

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Maybe the second didnt know about Edo TEnsei's one weakness? Remember it was Kabuto and to a bigger respect Orochimaru who were experimenting with the Edo Tensei. Or maybe the second didnt want to be full revived simply because itt would hurt alot of people.
 

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or maybe they couldnt move....?
 

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Yeah since the 2nd Hokage Tobirama created Edo tensei he should have known the weakness of Edo tensei too yeah like Madara did.


See how Madara released himself from Edo tensei Tobirama should have done the same when he was being controlled by Oro during the fight between him and Sarutobi. What do you think?

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It's what you call plot inconsistency, it happens. 13 years can do that.

Kishi would rather have you forget, so don't sweat it.
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So once again...
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Either kishi sucks at consistancy, or he had them fully controlled where as Kabuto left their emotions intact and his controll wasnt as tight
 

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Yeah since the 2nd Hokage Tobirama created Edo tensei he should have known the weakness of Edo tensei too yeah like Madara did.


See how Madara released himself from Edo tensei Tobirama should have done the same when he was being controlled by Oro during the fight between him and Sarutobi. What do you think?

Tobirama is too fodder to do that.
 

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Maybe the second didnt know about Edo TEnsei's one weakness? Remember it was Kabuto and to a bigger respect Orochimaru who were experimenting with the Edo Tensei. Or maybe the second didnt want to be full revived simply because itt would hurt alot of people.

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It's what you call plot inconsistency, it happens. 13 years can do that.

Kishi would rather have you forget, so don't sweat it.
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So once again...
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Either kishi sucks at consistancy, or he had them fully controlled where as Kabuto left their emotions intact and his controll wasnt as tight

Tobirama is too fodder to do that.


Don't fool yourselves.
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Don't fool yourselves.
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I went over the start of the fight, and I guess you are partly correct, although...

Initially they did have their 'will' or 'cognisance'
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See their banter?

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They were fully aware of being summoned by Edo Tensei, they had an opportunity to release it, but they didn't - I think that's the iffy part

It only takes . They had enough time, and fully acknowledged Oro's presence yet they failed to react? That's certainly strange.

That's when they (Oro placed the kunai gaining complete control).


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It is true that they probably could have released themselves from Edo Tensei (well Tobirama at least) but they didn't because they figured they'd still have their free will because they didn't know about Orochimaru's control tags. So its ok well either I don't fight and potentially turn against my summoner or I don't fight and return to being dead.
 

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I went over the start of the fight, and I guess you are partly correct, although...

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It only takes . They had enough time, and fully acknowledged Oro's presence yet they failed to react? That's certainly strange.

That's when they (Oro placed the kunai gaining complete control).


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You fail. Because they were already under Orochimaru's control from the moment they were summoned. Those tags were meant to completely wipe out their personalities and make them mindless killing puppets.

I am fully correct.
 

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He could have done it be he wasn't able to since orochimaru put them under complete control since he knew it would happen, kabuto wasn't as smart.

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You fail. Because they were already under Orochimaru's control from the moment they were summoned. Those tags were meant to completely wipe out their personalities and make them mindless killing puppets.

I am fully correct.

I may or may not continue this tomorrow.

I'm tired right now.
 
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